Getting this pattern on this grille cloth: how to?

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  1. RoscoeElegante

    RoscoeElegante Friend of Leo's

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    So as the semester finally winds down, happy projects beckon.

    One of which is finishing getting my Excelsior Pro's guts into this 1952 Westinghouse TV cabinet.
    WestinghouseTV1952TheWinslow.jpg

    I'd like to use this grille cloth:
    https://www.mojotone.com/Cabinets_x/Grillcloth_x/Aged-British-Black-Tan-Grill-Cloth
    ProposedGrilleClothForWestinghouseTV.png

    where the screen used to be. (I'd keep the original cloth intact over the bottom part, where the TV's original speaker was. The Exy's guts are split into separated pre-amp and power sections, so the lower guts' parts would be down there.)

    I'd like to emboss this on the upper, new grille cloth:
    WestinghouseTVAmpGrilleClothDesign.png
    So my questions are:
    1) What's the best way to do this myself? My youngest son is a very steady, skilled hand at all things drawing-related. Would high-quality markers suffice? If the thing turns out a bit ragged-looking, that would be good, as we want that weathered antique thing. Would the grille's fabric soak up enough of the marker to be tenable, without being too runny?

    2) If not markers, what?

    Thanks for your feedback!
     
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  2. johnny k

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    You can, i think, get custom printed grill clothes. You need to send a high quality pic, and maybe your grill clothes, or if it is some standard size, buy it over the website.
    Which website ? I don't know. But i remember a thread here, so people will chime in.
     
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    Thanks, johnny k.

    Might it have been this one?
    https://www.bagsoflove.com/speaker-grill-cloth-printing
     
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    I bet a local t-shirt maker with a silk screener could do it.
     
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    You can get T-shirt transfer film at any Staples, Office Depot, etc. You print your image in reverse, using ink jet or laser, and then flip it over and iron it on. I've made a bunch or different t-shirts this way, and it is tough and color-fast. The only caveat is the fabric has to be fairly smooth for the best resolution, e.g., t-shirt knit of flat cotton weave such as that used for bed sheets, etc.

    https://www.staples.com/Avery-3271-...ansfer-Paper-8-1-2-x-11-6-Pack/product_355125

    Note there are several grades for thin fabrics, thick fabrics, stretchable fabrics, etc. Make sure the printable film you get is compatible with the type of printer you have.
     
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    go to fleabay and search "antique radio speaker cloth" or vintage, or just "radio speaker cloth" by itself. you'll get over 1000 choices. they mostly range from 12 to 30 bucks, partly depending on size. I just finished an amp build & got this piece for grill cloth 17x24, I think for 25. very good quality. I'll do it again next time. watch the size though


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    heres a couple other patterns I considered

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    That is going to be one cool flippin' amp man!!!! Ha! What an idea! Kudos to you! Wish I had a suggestion but no clue. I'm building a cab myself, first build, and still can't decide what grill cloth to use for it... so... will be paying attn to your thread ;)
     
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    Antique Radio seems like an appropriate source...
    tubesandmore.com
     
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    Just a quickie!!!! A few years ago I built an amp cabinet for a friend in Sydney and I picked up this cloth at a material shoppe which had quite a bit of stock which mainly catered for older ladies.

    I got this design as it seemed to match the theme of the cabinet.

    https://www.tdpri.com/threads/speaker-cab-build.345942/#post-4390233

    Sadly my mate reported a short while back that his home had been flooded and he basically lost everything in the house.

    All his "stuff" plus a couple of guitars I built for him and the amp I built the cabinet for.

    Try an old ladies shoppe for "Winter" type dress materials, I'm sure you'll find something suitable!

    DC
     
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    I would seriously recommend doing both grill cloth in the exact same material.

    Otherwise the mismatch would be too obvious.

    Cool project.

    Any interest in fitting a 2nd speaker in the upper section?
     
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    Hi, Les Paul lover. Thanks for your feedback & suggestion.

    Only the upper part, the big screen space, would have a speaker, as the Excelsior uses a 15" one. The lower part would thus just house the lower part of the Excelsior's guts, as they're split between power and pre-amp sections:
    Excelsior Pro's guts.png
     
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    Cool, thanks for the pic!!! Unusual, but I guess it means that each unit is somewhat smaller and allows more room overall for the 15" speaker.

    Love how they use something like a shower hose for the signal path/power between preamp and power amp! That sure will shield it some!!!!
     
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