Gen 4 output?

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  1. oceanblue

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    Anyone know the outputs for Fender Gen 4 telecaster noiseless PU's? I don't see it on their web page for the PU's.
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    the DCR is NOT an indication of the output of the pickup, or its potential for output.. it is only a measurement of the resistance a Direct Current voltage will encounter as it travels through and down the wire... Now... few realize that in a passive electric guitar, there is NEVER any Direct Current... it is all for lack of an more correct, easy to understand description, it's kinda like an Alternating Current.. it moves back and forth..

    In Noiseless pickups the DCR is even more ambiguous, since one doesn't know what has been done internally to elicit noiseless performance. Such CAN result in a faux DCR reading...

    noting the DCR of a pickup and extrapolating its effect on the performance of the pickup is much like asking the amount of gasoline a car can hold and how that affects the performance of the machine..

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    So when I see, for example, Dimarzio Area T neck, says output is 95, it is referring to? I was hoping to see something similar listed for the Fender gen 4 noiseless for comparison.
     
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    Appreciate your help, just trying to clear up how they use the different measurements to come with "output = 95 or 260, or whatever" :)
     
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    the primary purpose for posting anything relevant to output is marketing... nothing other than low, normal, hot, is useful.. as has been pointed out, the only reason supposed knowledgeable manufacturers list something as useless as DCR is that far too many have come to think of it as a definitive indicator of the pickups performance...they do so through the veil of misinformation.. thus the makers can play on that ignorance as a marketing methodology. And that's pretty much the basis for all advertising today, it doesn't matter if it's a Pickup or a bar of soap, a tube of glue or a bottle of some "brain power" pills..

    What anyone of us doesn't know is vastly more comprehensive than what we do, and advertisers can have a "field day" playing in that "tall grass" of ignorance, hiding the reality and revealing the subjective, suggesting it's definitive.

    The makeup of a guitar is a labyrinth of many factions coming together to generate a tone... the pickup is but one, and it must work in conjunction with all the rest... counting on the DCR as a definitive gauge of a quality is as misguided as asking a Blind Date's Mother what she's like... She might just skew the reality.. :eek:

    Sadly, guys that look to any one feature, or value as an absolute to determining a specific tone just plain reek of ignorance. Its kinda like being a Sniper in a Dark Ops team, and meeting some kid that just got his first Remington single shot .22 ,, and the kid goes on and on about his skills as a marksman..... the Op is gonna probably just roll his eyes and go have another beer..

    Look at it this way... some "kids" that are buying their first car look at the horsepower as an indication of how it performs.. and rarely look beyond... but... say the car is a 300 hp 2800 pound lard azz... as compared to a 230 hp, more svelte 1800 pound sportster... and the guy buying the 300 hp supposed rocket is a 300 pound Right Guard and the guy in the 230 hp mighty mite is a 165 pound Math Major... guess who gets the Checkered Flag?

    The point being .. in a complex calculus, you have to consider ALL the variables... the DCR is only one variable... only one... and a relatively insignificant one at that...

    If you wanna make your guitar sound amazing.. go practice.. and if you want it to sound world class.. go find a quality instructor, start unlearning all your self taught bad habits.. and climbing the hill again... You won't find DCR mentioned even once in those situations.. and in a few years... you will have what every guitarist wants... respect from every other guitarist in the room.. and that what ya really want, isn't it? DCR doesn't mean sheet to those guys..

    rk
     
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