G String Tuning

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  1. JakubJames

    JakubJames TDPRI Member

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    Hi all,

    Looking for some advice.

    I bought a new telecaster a few weeks back and restrung it not long after. Since then the G string constantly goes out of tune. It even goes sharp sometimes?

    I’m not the best at restringing and I wonder if the issue could be because the G string is the only string that isn’t wrapped around the tuning post as many times as the other strings. It’s wrapped once whereas all the others are twice.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Rev Rhythm

    Rev Rhythm Tele-Meister

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    The G string can be a bugger. What kind of bridge do you have? I'm using a three barrel, and found a wound G improved intonation greatly.
     
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    Clip the string(s) about 1-2" past the post before wrapping.

    You can also google how to lock it in.
     
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    Did you go up one gauge?
    When strings go sharp while playing it’s almost always the nut the culprit: too narrow a slot and the string get stuck.
    Sometimes it can be the string tree, but you are not likely to have one on the G string.
    On a telecaster, I do not see the bridge likely to pinch the string anywhere.
     
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    ^This. In my experience, most tuning issues are due to strings binding in the nut.
     
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    I concur with the nut being the problem.

    But could one sorta-culprit be that, when you press the G string down in the first few frets, you're pressing too hard? I do this still, since I learned on big-necked, thick-stringed acoustics almost exclusively for the first 20+ years I played. I really grasp notes and chords near the nut, but am gradually teaching myself to go easier, which actually makes changing notes/chords smoother, anyway.

    Granted, your G string shouldn't go sharp, or least not much. But try developing a lighter touch on notes and chords near the nut until you get your nut fixed.
     
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    Temperature and humidity can be a factor too.
     
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    Here is maybe the simplest possible solution: rub some pencil lead in the G nut slot. Tune up. Still a problem?
     
  9. JakubJames

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    Wow, thanks for all of the response guys! Good to know there’s a strong community here. Yeah I think it came with 9s but the guy in my store said 10s were a better option. No issue with the other strings, just the G. It is strung poorly, could this be the issue vs the nut/bridge as they both look good to me
     

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    Are the nut slots deep enough? If the nut slot for the G string isn't deep enough normal fretting pressure will be enough to make fretted notes, especially those on the first few frets, go sharp. The additional tension created by pressing the string to the neck causes this. Check the nut slots for all of the strings. A poorly cut nut isn't often an issue for only one string, even when one string has the most obvious tuning issue. If you're not comfortable doing this yourself or if you don't have the tools, a professional setup by a qualified tech will be money well spent.
     
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    Deal with one factor at a time. Buy another single G string (.017 is typical for a "10" set) and re-string it on your guitar, getting at least 3-4 wraps around the post.

    Is your "new" guitar brand NEW, or just new for you. What model Telecaster ?

    Can you post a pic of your tuners posts with the strings you now have wound on them ?

    As has been suggested, high action and finger pressure when fretting can make a fretted note go sharp, particularly with taller frets.
     
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    Just my opinion, but I don't think you have enough string wrapped around that post. Someone said go 1-2" past post before cutting....I go two POSTS past the one I'm stringing before cutting. Make sure the wraps are even and smooth as you wind them. I believe the string is simply "slipping"......
     
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    In general:

    E-A-D-B-E =

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    G = [​IMG]
     
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    If you're not terribly experienced with guitars, may I suggest you pay somebody to set up a new guitar properly, with the string gauge you want to use. The cost may seem high compared to the cost of a guitar, but playability and tuning stability are very important.

    After that first setup, you'll be fine restringing and taking care of your guitar yourself. Oh, and you need 2-3 wraps on the tuner. I like more on the G string to get a steeper break angle.
     
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    It's likely the nut. The nut should only contact the string for a short length right at fretboard side in a perfect world.. But doesn't have to be that way as long as it doesn't grip the string.
    Your strings are not wrapped around enough times though.
    E and A string: 2-3 full wraps.
    D string: 3-4 wraps.
    G string: 4-5 wraps
    B and high E: 5+ wraps.
     
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    I always put more wraps on the g string, no matter what the guitar, seems to help keep the string lower in the nut since it gives a steeper break angle. bsman said it best....^^
     
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    Yeah ok, maybe I’ll get a setup tomorrow to see if it’s user error when restringing myself. Never been a strong point of mine

    What’s everybody thoughts on the best string gauge for a Tele? I’ve always played 11s in the past but have recently been enjoying 9s until this guy told me 10s were the best for teles. Surely it’s down to preference?
     
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    Even with perfect intonation all eventually have to come to terms with the drawbacks of tempered tuning. On the plus side you might have really good ears!
     
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    It IS down to personal preference......but I THINK more people like .010-.046 sets than any other. Just be careful walking into a crowded bar and proclaiming that!
     
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    Better than walking into a bar and proclaiming how you’re having trouble with your G-string....


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