Fuzz pedal withOUT lots of sustain

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  1. hessodreamy

    hessodreamy Tele-Meister

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    Most fuzz pedals seem to have loads of sustain and very little note attack. I'm after a well defined note attack with a normal amount of note sustain (or even less, maybe). Almost like in the 50s where they'd razor blade their speakers. My big muff is really not what I'm after.

    I'm thinking maybe something like Eels' Lucky Day In Hell, coming in at 9 seconds:



    Any suggestions?
     
  2. jdgladw

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    You probably want a Fuzzrite. The originals will run you north of 500 bucks, but there are clones out there. Here is one:
     
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    Have you tried turning down the guitar volume with the fuzz on?
     
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    Sounds like fuzz sustain to me....maybe rolling off the guitar’s volume control to weaken the effect as the note is held.
     
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    The TC MojoMojo produces nice OD and Fuzz sounds
     
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    SixStringSlinger Friend of Leo's

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    The Fuzz Factory can give you very little sustain, tons of sustain, sustain that turns into oscillation, etc. Lots of different attack characteristics as well. They have a reputation for being difficult to dial in which is not entirely undeserved, but has been somewhat exaggerated.
     
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    A fuzzrite, maestro fuzz tone or something along those lines will give you that short fuzz with a defined attack.
    I have alot of fuzzes and I love those types but they are hard to handle! You'll need some time to dial in the rig!
     
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    Boss Blues Driver. Most people like this for light gain. But I have found it has a very pleasant and "fuzzy" mid-gain sound. Organic, uncompressed, no sustain.
     
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    John Mayer used a Cornish NG-2 for a sustainless fuzz tone on his cut of Crossroads. This is from an interview a few years ago.

    "It's a Pete Cornish box called an NG-2. I don't think there was ever a real use for that – it's just noisy! I mean that guitar is on four – if you turn it all the way up, it sounds like… mistake!

    "I just wanted something with ridiculous amounts of fuzz. And it does ridiculous amounts of fuzz, but I found a tone there. It'll probably never be used on anything again.

    "There's also no sustain, so it's very hard to play with a pick on that. A couple times I tried soloing on Crossroads with a pick, with that pedal, it doesn't sound right.

    "You have to play really staccato notes, and then it sounds cool. [sings] If you start going waaahhhhh [sings big sustaining note], the note doesn't trail off and it just sounds bad."
     
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    Sounds like a gated fuzz to me. Something like a Fuzz Factory, Mastotron, or any fuzz with a bias knob that can starve the signal. The new Keeley Fuzz Bender is a tone bender clone that has a bias knob that I plan on checking out.
     
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    If you don't mind the cheapness, the Behringer SF300 Super Fuzz covers a lot of fuzz territory for $25.

     
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    You may want to try just using a noise gate after the fuzz and clamping down on it really hard. Then you would have the tight gated sound, and the Big Muff sound (Assuming you like that).

    You can find used noise gate pedals for dirt cheap.
     
  13. lineboat

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    MXR Variac Fuzz. Pretty awesome, pretty versatile.
     
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    Yep, but they've been on backorder since last month's JHS Pedals video where Josh lets the cat out of the bag that it is an exact clone of the old BOSS FZ-2 Hyper Fuzz...which is itself a clone of the old Univox Super Fuzz...and for around $30 new.
     
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    Sounds like an Electro Harmonix Satifaction fuzz might sound similar.
     
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    On second thought - one of the more velcro sounds on the DOD Carcosa might come closer.
     
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    Are you describing a gated fuzz?
     
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    Actually, anything that is Fuzz Face-based, and has a trimpot for setting the bias, will do the same thing. Something like the Eric Johnson sig FF already has the bias voltage set to ~3.2VDC (which is low, because the optimal "textbook value" is 4.5VDC - 5VDC) right from the factory. I think the Hendrix sig FF is just the opposite, with the bias voltage up around ~6VDC or so, but it also should have the identical trimpot.

    ...So, since MXR falls under the Dunlop umbrella, the Classic 108 will also have the same trimpot.

    Since the goal is to purposely misbias into a gated effect, I'd personally concentrate on finding the cheapest silicon-based Fuzz Face derivative that I could find.

    As a second option, many (most? all?) octave fuzzes will kill sustain by virtue of their function. The potential issue with that effect is that it can get kind of plinky and thin sounding, especially when you roll back your volume knob. Oz Noy does this kind of regularly, using Octavia-based fuzzes (unless he's gone and switched to something else), to get this sort of sitar-like effect.
     
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    I used to have an original Univox Super Fuzz when I was in high school. I think I paid like maybe $30 for it then. I gave it away to a buddy when I went to college, wonder what it's worth today.
     
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    I would try a Tone Bender variant. I have a EQD Tone Reaper that does exactly as you described, and doesn't get sustain-y until past 3 o'clock.
     
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