Fullback 15 replacement for Orange Crush 100 head.

[Bird Dog]

Always been a tube amp guy. I play a Vibrolux and Vox 15 quite a bit. But I recently got an Orange Crush 100 head and can’t say enough about how good it sounds. It’s 8 or 16 ohm compatible. I have a 30 year old, 1x12, 8 ohm Scorpion cabinet of all things that sounds great with it. I also have a Peavey Delta Blues cabinet that the amp section got taken out of, leaving it as a 15”, 16 ohm Celestron Fullback cabinet. It doesn’t sound as good as the close-backed Scorpion. It’s way more scooped. With certain guitars and EQ’ing, it might sound as good clean, and the Orange Crush 100 has a great, warm clean tone. Overdriven, I can’t see this 15” Fullback ever sounding as good as the 12” Scorpion. The highs are just too shrill and it lacks the punch to cut through a mix right.

So, what are some 15” speaker options that would sound better? I play single coils, P90s, and Humbuckers (mostly Fralin, some SD and DiMarzio). Country, classic blues, rock, funk, jazz. Some hard rock, but no death metal stuff. I know 15s tend to be more scooped than 12s, but what is a solid 15 with warmer mids than this Celestron? It just doesn’t have it where I need it. Thanks!

 

[robt57]

I grabbed a CR120 for 200.00 and popped a Man o War 120watt 12" into a PPC112 Cabinet. I have had Brown Pro, SFBM, SFBM combo VV Clone, 115 Delta, and Fender Super amp. (90s Pro series].

This set up is here to stay. And how much tubes cost these days not feeding an amp valves suits me fine. But it has to sound way better than OK, and it absolutely does.

As far as a 15" for it, I really can't say/suggest. I find 15" more voice specific than 12s myself.

I can say my 210 closed back Fender cab with one open hole and a Ramrod in the other also sounded excellent. Just too much amp for one Ramrod.

 

[Bird Dog]

I grabbed a CR120 for 200.00 and popped a Man o War 120watt 12" into a PPC112 Cabinet. I have had Brown Pro, SFBM, SFBM combo VV Clone, 115 Delta, and Fender Super amp. (90s Pro series].

This set up is here to stay. And how much tubes cost these days not feeding an amp valves suits me fine. But it has to sound way better than OK, and it absolutely does.

As far as a 15" for it, I really can't say/suggest. I find 15" more voice specific than 12s myself.

I can say my 210 closed back Fender cab with one open hole and a Ramrod in the other also sounded excellent. Just too much amp for one Ramrod.

Oh yeah, tube costs and how well my old Roland Cube 60 sounds when used as a back-up convinced me to try the Super 100 head. But dang, the tone is what sold it. At $499, you can’t beat it. It sounds considerably better than the small Marshall tube head I had a few years back. I just don’t think that Fullback 15 is a good match for it. All three 12s I’ve tried with it, sound fantastic. One is the Crush cab I tried in the store. Another is a 50 watt Jensen Jett. Just not sure how it would stand up to 100 watts. The old Scorpion sounds great as well. There has to be 15 out there that would sound good.

 

[uriah1]

Buddy of mine had the big ben in his vibro clone. Sounded pretty decent.

 

[chris m.]

Always been a tube amp guy. I play a Vibrolux and Vox 15 quite a bit. But I recently got an Orange Crush 100 head and can’t say enough about how good it sounds. It’s 8 or 16 ohm compatible. I have a 30 year old, 1x12, 8 ohm Scorpion cabinet of all things that sounds great with it. I also have a Peavey Delta Blues cabinet that the amp section got taken out of, leaving it as a 15”, 16 ohm Celestron Fullback cabinet. It doesn’t sound as good as the close-backed Scorpion. It’s way more scooped. With certain guitars and EQ’ing, it might sound as good clean, and the Orange Crush 100 has a great, warm clean tone. Overdriven, I can’t see this 15” Fullback ever sounding as good as the 12” Scorpion. The highs are just too shrill and it lacks the punch to cut through a mix right.

So, what are some 15” speaker options that would sound better? I play single coils, P90s, and Humbuckers (mostly Fralin, some SD and DiMarzio). Country, classic blues, rock, funk, jazz. Some hard rock, but no death metal stuff. I know 15s tend to be more scooped than 12s, but what is a solid 15 with warmer mids than this Celestron? It just doesn’t have it where I need it. Thanks!

Is it the Crush or the newer Super Crush? If I didn't already have a solid state option that I really like, I would probably go for the Super Crush.

 

[schmee]

Always been a tube amp guy. I play a Vibrolux and Vox 15 quite a bit. But I recently got an Orange Crush 100 head and can’t say enough about how good it sounds. It’s 8 or 16 ohm compatible. I have a 30 year old, 1x12, 8 ohm Scorpion cabinet of all things that sounds great with it. I also have a Peavey Delta Blues cabinet that the amp section got taken out of, leaving it as a 15”, 16 ohm Celestron Fullback cabinet. It doesn’t sound as good as the close-backed Scorpion. It’s way more scooped. With certain guitars and EQ’ing, it might sound as good clean, and the Orange Crush 100 has a great, warm clean tone. Overdriven, I can’t see this 15” Fullback ever sounding as good as the 12” Scorpion. The highs are just too shrill and it lacks the punch to cut through a mix right.

So, what are some 15” speaker options that would sound better? I play single coils, P90s, and Humbuckers (mostly Fralin, some SD and DiMarzio). Country, classic blues, rock, funk, jazz. Some hard rock, but no death metal stuff. I know 15s tend to be more scooped than 12s, but what is a solid 15 with warmer mids than this Celestron? It just doesn’t have it where I need it. Thanks!

The Weber 15F150 tend to have warmer , fatter mids once broken in well. I have both the 15F150 and a Celestion Fullback. I can't decide which to leave in my old BF Fender Pro non reverb. I liked the Fullback, but it does seem to have some crisp highs. I'm leaning to leaving the Weber in.

I also have an EV15B monster and it's one of my favorite guitar speakers of all time. The15B is technically a Bass/PA speaker but luscious with guitar. Big Mid Range and clean "throaty" Lows. Not too bright and they have that EV "grind" when pushed.

The nice thing is they are usually inexpensive, because not thought of as a "guitar speaker". But like everything they are no longer $75-$80 anymore. I've had 3 over the years and 2 of them were the plain aluminum silver frame with no EV label.... like come out of a factory cabinet.

Electro-Voice EV15B EV-15B 1980s - 1990s - Black | Reverb

EV15B speaker in excellent condition. Sounds amazing, I've just gathered an unreasonable number of these and need to downsize.

reverb.com

 

[Bird Dog]

Is it the Crush or the newer Super Crush? If I didn't already have a solid state option that I really like, I would probably go for the Super Crush.

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It’s the Super Crush 100. It has a very rich warm sound. One gig in with a closed back 1-12” cab and it almost had too much bass response on rhythm parts. We had a huge crowd and I had to turn up louder on stage than I normally would though. And I had that cab directly on the plywood box stage so I was getting a coupling bass effect. I think that cabinet will be fine at more reasonable volumes and once up off the ground. It sounded awesome on solos.

Still not sure about the 15” Fullback in an open cabinet. Seems the highs are a little too bright. It’s gonna take some trial and error to find the best cab, but the head sure has a nice lead sound with my pedal board.