<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">"I pulled on his jersey. They called it. I was hoping they would let it ride."<br><br>James Bradberry on the pivotal holding call <a href="https://t.co/5P8zvFqswd">pic.twitter.com/5P8zvFqswd</a></p>— Bleacher Report (@BleacherReport) <a href="">February 13, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Annnnnnd, that's the good part!
Stubee
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It was a good game. There were a couple calls that seemed iffy but I saw nothing that “was game ending” etc. My always sourpuss friend claimed the game was “decided” by the holding call against the Eagles, conveniently forgetting that it was a 3rd down play near the end zone. So without that call the Chiefs woulda failed to score only to watch the Eagles power through to end it? With no time left? Come on.
At the half I figured the Eagles might start rolling up some points but the Chiefs responded with force and the Eagles seemed to weaken, even on their last full possession.
At the half I figured the Eagles might start rolling up some points but the Chiefs responded with force and the Eagles seemed to weaken, even on their last full possession.
lammie200
Friend of Leo's
There is holding of some kind on practically every play. Kudos to Bradberry for owning it but it also seemed like it was on the lower end of the spectrum for that type of holding. Olson seemed to think it was a tacky call as well.
Also if the Chiefs failed on that third down they probably would have kicked the field goal on fourth down and PHI would have had some time left to try to at least tie it.
KC definitely had a better second half than PHI and I wouldn’t say that that they didn’t deserve the win but that call was unfortunate and made a decent game into one decided under unfortunate officiating IMHO. I should feel good though. I won $50 in the office pool.
Also if the Chiefs failed on that third down they probably would have kicked the field goal on fourth down and PHI would have had some time left to try to at least tie it.
KC definitely had a better second half than PHI and I wouldn’t say that that they didn’t deserve the win but that call was unfortunate and made a decent game into one decided under unfortunate officiating IMHO. I should feel good though. I won $50 in the office pool.
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G Stone496
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There were 2 holds on that one play. The second hold, not the first was the one being played over and over. The second hold was kind of ticky tack. The first hold he yanks on the receiver’s jersey to slow him down and that is a holding that should be and was called. See pics below.
BTW: On defensive holding, a 5 yard penalty, the ball does not have to be catchable. On pass interference, a spot foul or half the distance to the goal or 15 yard penalty the ball does have to be catchable.
G Stone496
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Is this a thing now, to blame the referees? Wow! Both 2 weeks ago and again today. We don’t play that where I grew up. They have up to 30 different views, and we have whatever the crew chooses to replay.
Hurt fumbled, giving KC defence an easy TD.... handy in a final when you are behind...
No, it was the refs!Hurt fumbled, giving KC defence an easy TD.... handy in a final when you are behind...
dburns
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This game was lost by the Eagles defense and Hurts’ fumble. Can’t give any team (let alone KC) a free touchdown. Feel bad for Hurts because other than that he was great. It was really just that fluky mistake play that made the difference.
As far as the defense, it seemed to be a combination of the D line not playin well and coordinator Gannon being totally out dueled by Bienemy. Too many plays where KC guys were running wide open. They just had the right calls set up. Also, Eagles’ special teams was their one weakness all season and that reared its head on that last punt return.
As far as the penalty. I’m not going to cry over a holding call. It was ticky tak, but probably the right call by the book. It did effectively end the game though. Once that call was made it guaranteed KC the control to manipulate the clock down to the final seconds for a short game-winning FG.
Pretty much what I worried would happen is what happened…and now I can’t watch sports or anything related to this game for awhile. Extremely tough L.
Btw, can they try to have the field a little less slippery for next years Super Bowl
As far as the defense, it seemed to be a combination of the D line not playin well and coordinator Gannon being totally out dueled by Bienemy. Too many plays where KC guys were running wide open. They just had the right calls set up. Also, Eagles’ special teams was their one weakness all season and that reared its head on that last punt return.
As far as the penalty. I’m not going to cry over a holding call. It was ticky tak, but probably the right call by the book. It did effectively end the game though. Once that call was made it guaranteed KC the control to manipulate the clock down to the final seconds for a short game-winning FG.
Pretty much what I worried would happen is what happened…and now I can’t watch sports or anything related to this game for awhile. Extremely tough L.
Btw, can they try to have the field a little less slippery for next years Super Bowl
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This. One of the biggest sporting events in the world any given year, and couldn't have the field in proper shape for the game? Ridiculous.
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Marc Morfei
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Right. That level of contact is found on every coverage on every play of every game. Either way, Chiefs kick a FG and take the lead. But it robbed the Eagles of a chance to have the ball with 1:30 left, to tie or win. That said, the Eagles did not play their best game. Gave away one TD on the fumble, and another on the punt return, and didn't put a finger on Mahomes the whole game. That's why they lost. Give the Chiefs credit, they were the better team last night.
lammie200
Friend of Leo's
Yer right but that rule makes no sense if the pass is obviously uncatchable. But if holding happens if messes with a QG's progressions. I get it. It would interesting to watch the play again to see if Mahomes went through any progressions or just threw it hoping for the penalty. I am with someone like Greg Olsen and Lebron James on this one though. And I didn't care at all who won the game. Like I said KC had a flawless second half and deserved the win. It would have been great to see their defense shut down a PHI last effort.
BTW, I just watched the play again. It looked like Mahomes only just focused on throwing it to Smith and it also didn't look like Bradberry tugged on anything. He hand checked him. The still photos don't tell the story IMHO.
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Generally speaking, most football games (excepting blowouts) are decided late in the fourth quarter. It has been kind of a specialty with the Chiefs it seems to me. I think the reason this is so, is that some teams, are better able to retain fighting strength for the full game than others. The one's that can do this win. It matters not in a close game who wins, the other side will always claim foul, it is the way of things.
LOL, the defender ACKNOWLEDGED he pulled on his jersey! He also got his hand on his hip to impede his path. It was a hold. Was it the worst hold ever? Of course not, but it impacted the ability of the receiver to run his route--and that's the precise reason why it is against the rules.
I wouldn't have considered it egregious had they NOT called it, but it was absolutely a foul.
I actually think the worse call was the reversal of that long Devonta Smith reception. They took several minutes to reverse it, indicating to me it wasn't clear and obvious that it was not a catch. I don't even think the NFL knows what constitutes a catch anymore.
Well even Bradberry disagrees with you as he admits he pulled his jersey. He didn't own up to the hook and turn that denied Ju Ju from getting to the corner EZ route. As for Mahomes his throw then immediately pointed to refs the hold. The back judge already flew the flag Pat just pointed it out to the Head linesman Carl Cheffers. Cheffers has a history of bad calls against the Chiefs and many other teams.
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lammie200
Friend of Leo's
It's a penalty. I get it. There is some form of holding on practically every single play. It's about judgement, perspective, arbitrariness, consistency, etc. NFL officiating has always had issues with those. Shame to see the championship game decided on that regardless of how anyone wants to rationalize it. I have always said that there are three teams on the field - the two teams that represent cities and the one team that represents the NFL. Sometimes the NFL wins and the sheep just follow.
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So when is it appropriate to throw the flag? Ju ju beats him past the 5 yards and breaks open to the corner for a TD except he was held twice restricting him to get to the ball. I have seen over the years get to balls just like that with Pittsburg and this year with KC.
Cheffers regular season crew probably doesn't throw the flag but playoffs and Championship crews are paired by season rankings.
