For the "serious" baseball fans

[old wrench]

I attended a Cuba v. Mexico game at PETCO Park in San Diego a few years ago. Mad fun. Very involved fans, chanting and yelling.

For this year's series, there are upcoming games that will be played in Miami and Phoenix

The other venues are in Taichung Taiwan where they are playing tonight, and Tokyo Japan

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[trandy9850]

Where did I attack anyone, be disrespectful, or say anyone was wrong about their opinion? I did not. Please don't make false accusations.

Telling someone they obviously don't know much about the new rules isn't an attack. Then I suggested they go watch a few vids to get a better understanding.


So, where is the attack? I didn't call anyone names. I didnt cuss anyone out. All I did was make a statement that he obviously doesn't know these rules. That's not an attack but a mere statement of fact.

Please don't make false accusations. I didn't attack anyone nor did I say anyone's opinion was wrong.

I said:

"going by what you posted, you don't know these new rules" , which isn't an attack.

I then suggested watching a few YouTube vids for a better understanding. Still no attack.

Not even when I called pitchers taking 3 minutes to make a single pitch crap did I attack anyone. Except maybe those slow pitchers like Baez lol

Where did I attack anyone, be disrespectful, or say anyone was wrong about their opinion? I did not. Please don't make false accusations.

Telling someone they obviously don't know much about the new rules isn't an attack. Then I suggested they go watch a few vids to get a better understanding.


So, where is the attack? I didn't call anyone names. I didnt cuss anyone out. All I did was make a statement that he obviously doesn't know these rules. That's not an attack but a mere statement of fact.

Please don't make false accusations. I didn't attack anyone nor did I say anyone's opinion was wrong.

I said:

"going by what you posted, you don't know these new rules" , which isn't an attack.

I then suggested watching a few YouTube vids for a better understanding. Still no attack.

Not even when I called pitchers taking 3 minutes to make a single pitch crap did I attack anyone. Except maybe those slow pitchers like Baez lol

I’m not going to argue with you…we’re not supposed to do that here.

 

[Killing Floor]

I haven't watched a preseason game this year. I don't want that kind of stress...aka..."Is the hitter in the box in time yet?...oh no...the pitch clock is now at 04 and the pitcher doesn't seem ready to deliver!".

Is this REALLY what baseball has devolved to?

Honestly I love baseball and am a lifer Braves fan. But it doesn’t need to take a minute to throw a pitch. I like the changes. If they don’t work it can be undone. Sometimes it’s hard to watch, the pace has gone way too slow. If pitchers didn’t take advantage the league wouldn’t have to make rules to keep kids from moving on to other sports. I like the “pastime” element but it’s better for baseball to adapt than to lose its audience.

 

[JIMMY JAZZMAN]

I'll watch, rooting for the USA. Oh, being the homer I am, keep an eye on my beloved Baltimore Orioles
this year. We're gonna shock the world.

 

[Recce]

Will they be using the little league rules that MLB is using this year?

I have just heard the changes once but yes some of them are little league. It started, I think, last year but the automatic runner on second in extra innings is pretty sad.

 

[old wrench]

I'll watch, rooting for the USA. Oh, being the homer I am, keep an eye on my beloved Baltimore Orioles
this year. We're gonna shock the world.

You guys do have one heck of a catcher now!

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[old wrench]

I'm OK with the new rules like the pitch-clock - they aren't really that onerous or hard to get used to, they're just an effort to cut out some of the more blatant stalling and show-boating stuff that's been going on - play ball !!!

Although, I never will get used to, or like, putting that runner on second base in extra innings - I'll be happy to see that rule go!

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[telleutelleme]

Astros versus Venezuela on now. Entertaining game.

 

[Silent Otto]

I like the pitch clock, I just don't need to see the pitch clock.

 

[old wrench]

A Hollywood script writer couldn't have come up a better ending to the World Baseball Classic

Probably the two best active baseball players in the world facing off in the bottom of the ninth inning - and one of them is a two-way player and he's pitching - with the count at 3 and 2

I think it was a really good series - a chance to see some great players from other countries that we wouldn't otherwise ever see play

Opening day for MLB is just a week away


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[RoscoeElegante]

Its better than the extreme time wasting(aka crap) that was going on last year. Taking 3 minutes to throw a single pitch is ridiculous. Today, in those three minutes there might be 5 thrown.

It makes the game MUCH better. Much better.

Going by what you posted, you don't really know anything about. I'd suggest spending time reading the actual rules and/or watching a couple of breakdowns by someone who understands it better than you on YouTube.


I'll take pitch clock ALLLLLL day over this bs on the right of the screen below. Combine pitch clock with pitchers being able to call their own pitches and it'll save A LOT of wasted time. There are also vids of pitchers shaking off pitches for 3 mins straight while waiting on the catcher to finally call the pitch they want to throw. Today, the pitcher can hit he button and be done. No more shaking off pitches for 3-5 minutes.

You're obviously not a serious baseball fan.

I really loved that baseball was clock-less.

But I also really detested how the players got increasingly addicted to pimping and preening and posing. Batters and pitchers alike. So while the clock offends me spiritually, I can appreciate it ethically.

But I do dislike, without qualification:
*The larger bases. If it worked for Ty Cobb and Ricky Henderson, make it work for you!
*The banned shifts. How about learning to hit to the opposite field, or bunting? And RUNNING OUT WHAT YOU HIT.
*The balk calls. The pitcher blinks wrong, and "BALK!" Plus, if the pitcher can deceive the batter with curves, etc., why not let him try to fake out the runners for some pick-off plays?
*Reviewing the umps' calls. Badly slows down the game, ruins a lot of momentum and drama, and takes the fallibility factor out of the game's tradition. Ump's errors are a valuable part of what made the game great.
*The excessive on-screen graphics and needless replays of nearly every pitch and play.
*The ijit TV director calls of showing a player trotting across home when the play call is at 2nd or 3rd. Way too much use of the center field camera when other angles can show much more of what's actually happening.
*A runner on 2nd to start extra-innings. Good Gawd. We tell our kids (I hope) to earn what they get, but we hand this to the teams?
*The booming "music" as batters approach the plate, between innings, etc. How can the Yankees hear me hexing them with rap rumbling the rafters?
*Bryce Harper. Doesn't have to be rational--I do logic all day for a living--so it feels good to blame this dropout from a frat house for all humankind's problems. Especially since Tiger Stadium was taken from us for no damn good reason.

 

[RoscoeElegante]

A Hollywood script writer couldn't have come up a better ending to the World Baseball Classic

Probably the two best active baseball players in the world facing off in the bottom of the ninth inning - and one of them is a two-way player and he's pitching - with the count at 3 and 2

I think it was a really good series - a chance to see some great players from other countries that we wouldn't otherwise ever see play

Opening day for MLB is just a week away


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I thought that the Ohtani stuff was really exaggerated. But Lordy, those pitches to Trout! 100 mph smoke at the knees, and some 95 mph cutters with serious side-slash. I've rarely seen such fast movement. Impressive!

 

[VWAmTele]

Congratulations to Japan, they've got some world-class ball players and I can't wait to see some of them when they make their move to MLB.

As far as the WBC, while MLB position players are decently represented, the pitching staff is made up of guys who are not or no longer stars and are not representative of the best MLB has to offer.

 

[old wrench]

Congratulations to Japan, they've got some world-class ball players and I can't wait to see some of them when they make their move to MLB.

As far as the WBC, while MLB position players are decently represented, the pitching staff is made up of guys who are not or no longer stars and are not representative of the best MLB has to offer.

I watched a few of the games and I thought the pitching was pretty darn good - some of the pitchers were very good even though I've never heard of them before

What we didn't see very much of were MLB pitchers with the real high-dollar contracts (there were some exceptions though, like the Houston pitcher who pitched a couple of winning World Series games last year ) - people get all nervous about stuff when they think it might cost themselves some money in the case of an injury - whether it's the player or the team that holds their contract

I think Japan won because they put the best team on the field - they went undefeated through the whole series

MLB did well, but they came up short this year


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[trandy9850]

I thought that the Ohtani stuff was really exaggerated. But Lordy, those pitches to Trout! 100 mph smoke at the knees, and some 95 mph cutters with serious side-slash. I've rarely seen such fast movement. Impressive!

There is no bigger Mike Trout fan than myself…but…Ohtani made him look…old.

 

[old wrench]

I really loved that baseball was clock-less.

But I also really detested how the players got increasingly addicted to pimping and preening and posing. Batters and pitchers alike. So while the clock offends me spiritually, I can appreciate it ethically.

But I do dislike, without qualification:
*The larger bases. If it worked for Ty Cobb and Ricky Henderson, make it work for you!
*The banned shifts. How about learning to hit to the opposite field, or bunting? And RUNNING OUT WHAT YOU HIT.
*The balk calls. The pitcher blinks wrong, and "BALK!" Plus, if the pitcher can deceive the batter with curves, etc., why not let him try to fake out the runners for some pick-off plays?
*Reviewing the umps' calls. Badly slows down the game, ruins a lot of momentum and drama, and takes the fallibility factor out of the game's tradition. Ump's errors are a valuable part of what made the game great.
*The excessive on-screen graphics and needless replays of nearly every pitch and play.
*The ijit TV director calls of showing a player trotting across home when the play call is at 2nd or 3rd. Way too much use of the center field camera when other angles can show much more of what's actually happening.
*A runner on 2nd to start extra-innings. Good Gawd. We tell our kids (I hope) to earn what they get, but we hand this to the teams?
*The booming "music" as batters approach the plate, between innings, etc. How can the Yankees hear me hexing them with rap rumbling the rafters?
*Bryce Harper. Doesn't have to be rational--I do logic all day for a living--so it feels good to blame this dropout from a frat house for all humankind's problems. Especially since Tiger Stadium was taken from us for no damn good reason.

Ricky Henderson was a super-natural base stealer - just incredible

Even with the slightly larger bases, I don't see Henderson's stolen base records being broken - he was a base-stealing freak of nature - Ricky gotta go!

 

[Silent Otto]

pretty exciting to see game 7 intensity in March.
congrats to Japan !

 

[buster poser]

I'm OK with the new rules like the pitch-clock - they aren't really that onerous or hard to get used to, they're just an effort to cut out some of the more blatant stalling and show-boating stuff that's been going on - play ball !!!

Although, I never will get used to, or like, putting that runner on second base in extra innings - I'll be happy to see that rule go!

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Maybe I've been watching the wrong games. Any examples of a guy "showboating" from the mound by delaying his pitch? Orel Hershiser used to be pretty deliberate, and I hate the Dodgers (and hated Orel on the Giants) but never minded that. Ohtani is among the slowest pitchers in the game, people don't seem to mind that aspect of his approach (or any other, he's amazing to watch).

It'll be fun to revisit this thread at the end of the year, but my prediction is the time-of-game reduction (if any) is going to be in the 5-10 minute range. Facts: Games are longer today because of (a) number of pitching changes, and (b) advertising between innings. If there's data showing that games are longer because pitchers are holding on to the baseball longer, I haven't seen it. Completely facile "solution" to micromanage the game in this way.

Me, I'm all for shortening the game myself: By removing the month of the season it didn't have back in the "golden era" Manfred seems selectively slavish to. The season was lengthened to 162 games to sort things out because there were no playoffs except the championship WS. Since then we've added twelve teams, and one will need to win a best of three, then a best of five, then two best of sevens to take it all. If we're going to modify baseball to have play into November, seems like we could start spring training in April, and the regular season in May. I haven't lost interested because of a 20 minute game-time increase from my youth, I've lost interest because a month of the season is basically meaningless.

 

[old wrench]

Maybe I've been watching the wrong games. Any examples of a guy "showboating" from the mound by delaying his pitch? Orel Hershiser used to be pretty deliberate, and I hate the Dodgers (and hated Orel on the Giants) but never minded that. Ohtani is among the slowest pitchers in the game, people don't seem to mind that aspect of his approach (or any other, he's amazing to watch).

It'll be fun to revisit this thread at the end of the year, but my prediction is the time-of-game reduction (if any) is going to be in the 5-10 minute range. Facts: Games are longer today because of (a) number of pitching changes, and (b) advertising between innings. If there's data showing that games are longer because pitchers are holding on to the baseball longer, I haven't seen it. Completely facile "solution" to micromanage the game in this way.

Me, I'm all for shortening the game myself: By removing the month of the season it didn't have back in the "golden era" Manfred seems selectively slavish to. The season was lengthened to 162 games to sort things out because there were no playoffs except the championship WS. Since then we've added twelve teams, and one will need to win a best of three, then a best of five, then two best of sevens to take it all. If we're going to modify baseball to have play into November, seems like we could start spring training in April, and the regular season in May. I haven't lost interested because of a 20 minute game-time increase from my youth, I've lost interest because a month of the season is basically meaningless.

We still haven't seen a real MLB game with these "new rules" in place - (other than putting a runner on second base when a tied game goes into the 10th inning) - we'll have to wait for another week to see how it all comes together

From what the players have said, it seems most of them are OK with the pitch clock and the larger bases - but that may or may not change once they start playing by the rules

One thing I really hope the slightly larger bases might do is to give the baserunner a little bit better chance of staying on the bag -

Back before they started with the microscopic view, frame-by-frame, slow-motion, replays of stolen base attempts - if you got to the base before the baseman tagged you, you stole the base, and you were "safe" - none of this current stuff where the baseman hovers over the base-stealer and then tags him "out" 5 or 10 seconds later if his foot comes off the base

I suppose any time there are changes with an institution like baseball, especially MLB, people will have issues with the changes

With the new scheduling format this year, I'm looking forward to seeing some of the teams that the Guardians haven't played against in many years

No matter what game it is - from 1 through 162 - they all count up the same at the end of the season


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[BuckNekkid]

Opening day for MLB is just a week away

There's a lot to not like about baseball (recent and semi-recent rules changes to "automate" the game, for example) but since I've lost interest in every other sport, I am looking forward to "PLAY BALL!"