Flea market find- early 50s tele?

Discussion in 'Vintage Tele Discussion Forum (pre-1974)' started by Charlodius, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. Preacher

    Preacher Friend of Leo's

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    I agree, to spend the time and the $$ to make a replica and then to do that to it so it passes off as some weird one off partscaster seems ludicrous.
    However there are weirder things out there!

    So I will do this for you. I will give you $100 for it like it sets... no questions asked.... :p

    Seriously that is either a remarkably well done forgery or it is the real McCoy!
     
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  2. Antoon

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    A piece of advice: be carefull not to start "restoring" it by yourself.
     
  3. rze99

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    Extraordinary find! Lucky you. Bizarre refin.
     
  4. skunqesh

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    I'd love to see under the bridge and neck pups, and other mild disassembly spots.
    That 'bridge cover' is some neat stuff - borders on Folk Art. People don't cobble that kind of thing just for kicks.

    Thanks for sharing the experience - I'd have to pinch myself to see if I was dreaming if I ever had such luck!
     
  5. Urshurak776

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    Holy smokes!!! This is incredible.
     
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  6. dickey

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    Reminds me of the time I bought a 60s Shell Pink Jaguar at a flea market in Joisey for $35.00...or the early 60s Les Paul/SG I bought at a 2nd hand shop in Hudson, NY for $20.00
     
  7. BorderRadio

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    Looks like it needs work, but I can help you out. I'll give you 40 bucks for it.
     
  8. fernieite

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    Wow, that could be legit!

    If it's a real 1952 tele, I'd send it to a specialist and have it restored properly (re-fined in blonde).
     
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    I gotta start going to more yard sales and fleamarkets!
     
  10. 2 Headed Goat

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    Wow, what an amazing find! Congrations! From what I see that is indeed an legit early 50's Fender Telecaster. As Preacher points out, the body has all the 'appointments' for lack of a better word that ID it as such. In the early 90's I owned an early 50's Fender Tele (or Esquire) body and it had the same steep slope on the upper notch/volute plus the pin router holes and nails holes.
    As others has suggested, I would get it checked out... by Gruhn's or someone who specialises in early Fenders. More than likely, it has been refinished a long time ago though one never knows, perhaps it was a some early custom deal or it belonged to a prominent or famous musician. Would kinda a drag to find that out after 'restoring' it. Better safe than sorry.
    In the meantime, The Telecaster book -
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/0793508606/?tag=tdpri-20
    would be helpful as well as trying to get your hands on Nacho's book though that is probably easier said than done...
    Re the bridge pu, there's a good chance that one or both of the coil wires from the pickup bobbin may and broken causing an open. You or your tech can check this by looking at where the cloth pickup wires are soldered to the bobbin eyelets with an eye loop or magnifying glass.

    Best of luck and keep us posted!
     
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  11. G.Rotten

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    In the early 50's the serial # was on the Bridge. Your Bridge has 5071 which would put it at 1952-1954.

    https://reverb.com/ca/news/how-to-date-a-fender#earlyyears1950-1954

    I'm no expert & I would suggest bringing it to an expert. However, either a long time ago somebody made a fake using incredibly high quality repro parts,

    or

    a longer time ago Fender made a Tele that someone gave a facelift (a long time ago).
     
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  12. Dacious

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    The bumble bee and cornell-dublier cap look ridgey-didge. Headstock shape at rear. I also think the truss rod is closer to the surface of the neck than it looks, just an optical illusion due to two tone neck. Rear ferrules on early ones always a bit wandery.

    I think this one's a find and a half.

    You may get a museum interested in it as-is, as a piece of early Billy Bob Americana, so don't rush to try and 'restore' it.

    It's probably unplayable with the restaurant sink ashtray, but I would consider cleaning it up and playing it as-is, that's an amazing patiina. If that guitar could tell tales....

    Maybe it belonged to someone a bit notorious.
     
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  14. theprofessor

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    oh my oh my oh my! I am very far from expert, but it looks to me like the real deal that was "improved" at some point. I just can't believe you got this for $20! Even if only the control plate is authentic, it's worth WAY more than that!
     
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  15. hdvades

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    Pretty sure Nacho still has some copies left. I got mine a little over a year ago direct from Spain and signed.
    And that does look like the real deal. Like others are saying...have a real expert check it out.
    Awesome find.
     
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  16. 24 track

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    I'll give 21.00 for it !.........seriously , I would


    nice find , these do happen , and if this is original ,I would have a serious proffessional look at it
    1) you dont want to touch adjust ,or modify anything to devaluate the guitar
    2) you would get a real opinion as to its worth
    3) any history attached the previous owners etc

    might i suggest
    http://www.danerlewine.com/contact.html
    send him an Email with your pics and get his opinion , this would be the first thing I would do!

    beautiful find! Kudos

    and welcome aboard
     
  17. E5RSY

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    Good advice, obviously. Anyone have any recommendations for a good person in the region he could take it to?
     
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  18. 24 track

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    I left the link to Dan Erliwine , to send an email with the photos .

    Dan has done some work for me and is extremely personable and approachable , he or Eric are the real thing!

    I mentioned Dan because if it is real you will get the straight goods , if the op goes to a local luthier he may try to talk him out of the guitar or give him false info


    wouldnt this be a blast to see this on the next trade secrets?
     
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  19. E5RSY

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    Where is he located?

    p.s. Found it. He's in Ohio. Not a bad drive from Delaware, at all.
     
  20. 68tele

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    Just noticed the tuning keys are numbered 1-6.
     
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