First video of the Mustang GTX

Discussion in 'Modeling Amps, Plugins and Apps' started by DougM, Mar 21, 2020.

  1. DougM

    DougM Friend of Leo's

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    It has far to much talk and not enough sample playing, but it sounds really good to me, and the direct out sounds very close to the actual miked amp on the same setting. If Lee weren't babbling on so much and just let Pete play more it would be better, but it's the only sample we have so far of these new amps. And, all we hear are all Fender amp models, and none of the Marshalls or others, but it's a start.
     
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    Cool. Thanks for posting!
     
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    Im not a Digital Amp owner, neither i have the GAS for one. but... Im seeing many in the street, also same brand launching every month a new model.

    Why they dont build an excellent cabinet, with good speaker/proccesor and then only do the Program update.

    I guess fender should change it point of view and build amps that could be customized..

    they should sell the platform and then you could change speaker, processor, program etc,

    The only product that i respect is the Tone Master, is a long live amp, no need for upgrades. Other models seems to be 1 year amp.
     
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    Well dang, I thought you were talking about the new mid engine Mustang GT500....
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    Far too many bells and whistles for me. I don't mind the champion range and XL line, but I'm lost on this stuff. I want to play my guitar not spend most of my day tapping into a sound I like. It's the last word for me on these to be honest.
     
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    Fendereedo, I see your point. But you can also use it as a single basic amp. That’s how I use mine.

    I treat it as if Fender didn’t want to make 60 different amps, so they made one that you can customise to what you want.

    My favorite amp, a ‘66 Deluxe Reverb, is in storage in another country. So I bought a used Mustang III, Version 2. I went through all the amp models, and—big surprise—my favorite was the blackface Deluxe Reverb model.

    I adjusted the parameters for the bias and sag I liked, then just popped my favorite real life pedal in front of it, and use it like my old DR.

    I tried using the various doodads, but honestly just can’t be bothered. I’m just an overdrive into a Deluxe Reverb kind of guy. So I just put that into the first slot and don’t touch the other 99.
     
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    Exactly how i use them. The new firmware has gotten me a new favorite but i will still use my old favorite because they are easily different enough to use both for different things. But till now i found my fav model, tweaked it with a few effects i use and thats pretty much all i ever used till now. Now that one is still used but the blues jr model is the one i use mostly now. But yeah, i do the same as u basically and treat it as a single channel tube amp. And i see the tons of models and settings as a much much wider palette from which to find my fav tone. It's kind like going to a restaurant and buying a huge sample platter then when you find what your fav is thats all you buy from then one. But the advantage beyond that is if you get bored with the sound you don't have to go out and buy another amp for a little change now and then !

    So really what it comes down to is how you look at it. I would never buy a tonemaster other then as a second amp because one of the reasons i stopped using tube amps to begin with is for the variety i CAN have when needed, and the tonemasters don't have that. Even the best tube amps i have owned, and i have owned many to put it mildly, i would get bored with at times and that would start me looking for a "better" amp. Not because it wasn't good enough but because i needed a break from that sound for a while. Now if i need that a simple twist of the data knob and i'm there ! :D I absolutely love modeling, but to some it's just too much to deal with.
     
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    That's all I do on my MIIIv2 set and forget, 2 amp settings Fender Deluxe for cleans and Orange Rockerverb for when I want to rock.:)
     
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    Guess I'll have to try the Orange Rockerverb then. I've been using a Blackstone Appliances MOSFET Overdrive and an original, first-version Big Muff for when I'm feeling rude.
     
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    I don't need to use any external effects with my amp everything is built right in.
    The only thing external I put to my amp is this ;):- re cab and made a pedal board. Screenshot_2020-03-13-17-42-14.jpg
     
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    nick0,

    The reason I use the Blackstone is that it actually adds back more tubelike amp feel compared to the built-in effects and settings--at least for my limited ability and patience for tweaking. And the triangle-knob Big Muff...well I just like it there even more the Mustang's "Big Fuzz."
     
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  12. jageya

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    fender stop trying to do marshal and vox- stick to fender amps. Cab sims sound thinner. I would expect the TM cabs out on this unit as its static. When i demo'd this at the gc a weekago or so I came away unimpressed.Yea like 2-3 amps were ok but its a toy. Fizzy and thin. I also plugged into the tm deluxe and i could tell a huge diff in depth of tone. Even the rvb and trem in the TM blew those 2 effects away in the gtx. Then i plugged into a few tube amps(blues jr/rev deluxe tube version and a used vox ac15) and it was no contest. Of course the tube amps cost more but My point is they cheapened the gtx again and while it can be used for 2-4 amps on it that may be worthy I still think there are better options.I wish they had a gt100 or 200 used on the floor with the latest updates so i could compare them.The amp looked like a blues jr styling thing which was diff then the old gt.
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    Sounds like you went in unimpressed and were determined to be proved right. That's not a criticism.. it's just that you're obviously a tube guy and my guess is 90% of people who buy these amps will love them for what they are, not hate them for what they're not.
     
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    No. I was excited they had one to try because of all the hoopla on it. I was willing to buy it on the spot as the manager offered me 20% off due to very few sales in last 10 days. I spent 2 hrs there messing with it and a few other amps. In the glass room where they put expensive amps and guitars-I always take an amp in there when i am serious about it. I havent played a gt but did own a mustang 2-12 combo ver 2 a while ago and a katana 100 a while ago. I still own and like the cybertwin se combo but always try to demo new model amps and i prefer all in 1 amp. The vid above sounded worse them my demo but i didnt mike it and use cab out so it may be their mixing/..I have and have has alot of amps over the years and not a newbie to tone but tone is subjective so all i can say is try to find one in stock and go play it. Or order if you can return it locally free. I didnt hate it but it didnt wow me with all the options. The TM is also not tube and was just heads above in tone and dynamics but To me overpriced. If it was $500 i would have bought one.
     
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    Next time I won't bother to post anything, since it's beneath all you high and mighty golden ears, and it seems you have your minds made up beforehand, and are just looking for a chance to hate it. FWIW, I'd wager that Pete can play circles around 99.9% of you.
     
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    Personally, I was happy with the previous update on the GT40. I also like the Champion 20 alot.
    I a/b the Bassbreaker 007 with the GT40 model of the Bassbreaker , and the basic tone is there. If the cab was the same, I probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two.

    I believe if you start from the model, use the right cab for the model, and a little delay or reverb to taste- these can sound unbelievably good.
    I have a hard time believing these new ones sound " fizzy and thin" when I can get the GT40 to sound full . Dial down that gain!
    I believe it's knowing a couple of simple tricks and you're good to go.
     
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    dont take opinions personal. Geez. Best idea is try the unit yourself in person. Some will like and some wont. Its not about being beneath anyone. At $500 in this day and age we just cannt expect much anymore for that pricepoint: its just how it is. GTX/KATANA/NEXTONE all are viable amps for many so if you like it buy it.
     
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    WOW best looking mustang year yet recently. The 2020 corvette is best looking one since the 1960's as well. But its still a chevy...eww
     
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    Amen to that. I'm having the same conversation, if you can call it that, over at T9P, but one particular GT-ex...pert (see what I did there?) thinks that only his 50 years' experience counts for anything. The rest of us are worthless 'noobs', to use his expression.

    What I want to hear, is from people who haven't spent the last 50 years tube-sniffing - a little naive enthusiasm would be welcome, especially at a time when we're surrounded by negativity.
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    Maybe it is what it is guys. By that I mean why are you guys expecting this amp to be the bee's knees? Its an inexpensive modeling amp capable of some decent tones inside but dont expect amazing.
     
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