my observations... 1) you think pedals for guitarists are overstated. These dudes all had like 25 disks which each one did something different. However it seemed like most of their shots were kind of all the same. 2) poison ivy seems to be everywhere now. 3) you would think the parks and rec department would mow the grass occasionally. But they may be planning on bailing it later for hay. 4) you need some serious torque to throw a disk far. 5) I did not have any torque 6) Disk golf is a like like real golf, young guys throw it miles but can't putt. Old guys get there in two but putt in one. 7) they don't have carts for you to ride in, you have to walk. 8) my cholesterol levels thank my for an afternoon trek around the pitch.