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Fender VS G&L for Telecasters

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Tobes, Mar 30, 2013.

  1. John C

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    That's because it's an "ASAT Classic Custom" not an "ASAT Classic Bluesboy" - I'm pretty sure the ASAT Classic Custom came out a few years after the Bluesboys (which may have originally been a special run for Buffalo Brothers Guitars in California).

    I had this one briefly - I didn't care for the neck and wound up moving it on (this one had an almost D shape).

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  2. editorjuno

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    The last time I checked, the choice of fretboard radii was either old-fashioned 7.5" or nearly flat 12" -- IMO the Tribute ASATs are perfect in that respect @ 9" radius with medium jumbo frets, YMMV.
     
  3. Daywalker

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    Nice rig.
     
  4. ifallalot

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    That is an amazing deal for a 100% custom
     
  5. '56Teleman

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    Yeah, it's an ASAT Classic Custom. I was a rep and had it made. Tobacco sunburst, cream pick guard and pickup cover, 12" radius gun oil tint neck and I could find no seam anywhere on the body.

    I sold it because I saw some financial difficulties coming. Guess what? It never happened! I was V...E...R...Y... bummed! Talk about jumping the gun!
     
  6. Tobes

    Tobes TDPRI Member

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    Thanks for all of your replies!
    You seem to all be pretty keen on the G&L's.
    The Classic Alnico is definitely an option, I'll have to look further into that one. How is its tone compared to the Classic Custom? I'm guessing it would sound a little warmer because of the alnico. Is the output lower or higher?
    I really need to compare a few of the G&L's side by side, but I live in the ACT, and the music stores around here kind of just stock Strats and Pauls... :rolleyes:
     
  7. SamIV

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    I recently picked up an American ASAT Classic with a 7 1/2 in radius and I truly love it. Had to raise the action a bit to help for bends due to it fretting out, but it is truly amazing. All of my other guitars have 12 - 14 inch radius fret boards. I really like the sound of the pickups. It is the first time I truly like a neck pickup. I am going to try a Tribute with a 9 inch radius just to see if I like that better, but this was hard to pass up for what I paid for it. Might even see about a custom. Only real Fender tele I liked was the new one with the compound radius fret board. I believe it is an American Deluxe. Tried it side by side with my G&L and I preferred my G&L and that Fender is a great guitar. My ASAT is ash in a blue burst which is not my favorite color, but I can live with that for now. Good luck on your search and don't just take my word for it, play a few of them. My taste might not be your taste and that's okay.
     
  8. Volitan

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    I own both, and here's my opinion.

    The G&L feels more streamlined. The body, at least the one I have, is slightly thinner. Like, maybe a 1/4 inch. But it's noticible, at least to me. The neck for me, feels a little more...tactile?

    As for sound, it doesn't have as much grind when distorted. My Fender has slightly more "chainsaw" quality when distorted. Which i like. The G&L has a little more twang or "plank" when clean. A slight bit more chime.
     
  9. Phelonious Ponk

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    This sounds about right. MFDs are on the "hifi" side. Very quiet for single coils, very wide range. Smooth response. Refined. My other solid body has a filtertron and a Tele bridge pup, which is, when run hard, raw, biting, slightly microphonic. Sounds like it's on to verge of running out of control. I love it. Gotta have both.

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  10. DrummerStrummer

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    I know my opinion probably doesn't mean a rats ass to anyone but I have a G&L asat classic hollow-body and it's the best guitar I've ever owned. I tried out a fender deluxe too just to compare and (don't get me wrong, the fender is a grand instrument) but the G&L was just a step higher. I also payed less for a higher quality guitar because it was G&L
     
  11. boris bubbanov

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    You can swap out the 6 Hammer saddle bridge of the ASAT Classic, Classic Custom or Bluesboy for a 3 barrel saddle bridge meant for a Fender Tele (4 mount hole variety).

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    Caveat to those who imagine the reverse is also true. No, IMO the ASAT Classic bridge does not work right with narrow Fender necks; the outboard strings play off the edges.
     
  12. boris bubbanov

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    That's not my experience. If someone had evidence one (USA Fender or USA G + L) was thicker and I had to guess what their data shows, I would guess the G + L body (the USA ones) were thicker. Although, part of this impression may be that the "S" shaped ones have less contouring than do Fender Strats.
     
  13. BigDaddyLH

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    Also, if you're looking for a hardtail bridge, the G&L SaddleLock bridge is awesome. Very comfortable to play on, if your style is to rest your hand on the bridge.
     
  14. EsquireOK

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    G&Ls are notably thinner! 1-9/16". It's one of my favorite of their features. It's similar to the thickness that Leo Fender used on the earliest of his guitars, and later on student models. I makes them very slender, and also cuts the body's weight by 10% vs. a 1-3/4" body. That's about 6.5 oz. off of an average 4 lb. Fender body – not a lot, but also not insignificant.
     
  15. editorjuno

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    I never used an ASAT bridge on a Tele, but I successfully put a set of ASAT Classic hammers in a Deluxe Nashville with no such symptom, although I eventually gave up on ashtray bridges entirely and settled on a Gotoh. The Gotoh also works fine on ASAT Classics -- I just had to shim the neck angle a bit to get my semi-hollow Tribute's saddle height to my liking.
     
  16. kanegon

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    Q: are G&L necks compatible with Fender bodies?

    An ASAT semi-hollow with an MFD at the neck and a Baja neck could be interesting. I actually liked the MFDs on my F100, but they were humbuckers with coil split and phase switch.
     
  17. bun malaey

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    No G&L necks are not interchangeable with Fender necks. The plus to this is you cannot parts-cast a G&L. If you look at G&L neck options I'm sure you'll find what your looking for.

    To the OP

    G&L hands down makes a better guitar than Fender. Plus when you buy a G&L it's to your specs not some standard spec sheet mass produced GC product.

    In my opinion given the option the only reason someone would choose Fender over G&L is they are stuck on the brand "Fender" in that case you'll never convince them to get a G&L.
     
  18. EsquireOK

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    G&L necks are longer (22 fret, but not via an overhang), and the screw holes are located farther from the nut. However, a true custom builder (i.e. not just any CNC-dedicated shop) can hand make a replacement neck (without the G&L headstock, technically). I know; I had one made by J. Carruthers years ago when my Skyhawk's neck broke. It was expensive, at around $300 in '90's money, but G&L wanted nearly 3x as much.
     
  19. Doug 54

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    The G&L neck replacement has been an issue for many thru the yrs.

    I'm surprised some of the parts makers couldn't have worked a deal of with G&L.
    Maybe the demand is too low.
     
  20. Phelonious Ponk

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    Of course let's bear in mind that this issue is no different than it is with every guitar ever made that did not have a Fender spec bolt-on neck. Break the neck on a set neck guitar and you have a lot more trouble than you do replacing a G&L neck. The trick is not breaking the neck of your guitar.

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