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Fender pure vintage 64 set vs. Joe barden Danny Gatton modern set

Discussion in 'Just Pickups' started by Kindness046, Feb 24, 2021.

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    Kindness046

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    Looking for opinions on these.
     
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    Tele295

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    Apples and oranges, I would guess
     
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    I love the Vintage 64s. Never tried the others. The V64s are mellow and full. Not ice picks.
     
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    Kindness046

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    Do you play live with the 64’s?
     
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    Exactly. The Barden are way louder and have no hum. They have a full spectrum that gives them a hi-fi character (loads of highs from what I remember). The modern bridge version is blues-rock oriented with more power and mids.
    Personally, I prefer vintage pickups and the '64 are an excellent set.
     
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    I have one Tele with the older Fender Original Vintage pickups, another with the newer Fender Original pickups and another with the Fender ‘64’s. The vintage ones both sound great, similar but slightly different. The ‘64’s are much different, designed to have more highs. The packages show the graphs of bass, mid and highs output and they sound that way to me. The ‘64’s are a bit bright for me and not quite as clean and smooth sounding. My least favorite of the three sets by a good margin.


    I did try a set of Lawrence Keystones one time and they really sounded clean (almost ‘hi-fi’ clean. A bit too clean sounding even for me.
    Now I only play clean so YMMV.
     
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    Kindness046

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    Interesting. Do you play live? Gig often?

    I’m just debating. I feel when we play at home with our boutique amps by ourselves, we can afford to use vintage single coils. Don’t get me wrong. I love that! All the nuances, subtleties, etc. I’m just thinking about gigging my #1. I have both sets. I want to see what other players opinions are on this.
     
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    I‘ll second that. 64s are the real deal.
     
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    Kindness046

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    Cool. Sounds like you enjoy the vintage pickups. I do too.

    Have you ever gigged with them?
     
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    Man, at 73 my gigging days are far in the past. I do jam with a group of old high school buddies I have played with for over 50 years. (make that 60 years).
     
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    No. Some would say I can barely play!
     
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    If you are going to be gigging with them, the 64's may not cut through the mix as well - depending on the band. Of course your choice of amp will make a big difference. For recording and home stuff, the 64's would be great.
     
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    Kindness046

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    Sweet! That’s about where I’m at with them. I’ve used both. Haven’t gigged either. Enjoy both. Granted the 64s through a great tube amp with nothing in between is amazing. But the hardens are pretty awesome too. Especially using the volume and tone controls.
     
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    The '64s are great for both- I gig with mine and the band loves the aggressive tone (I set them up just a bit high) I have no problem cutting through any mix with my Silverfaces or ZLux.
     
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    My Crook had Bardens in it when I bought it... I didn't give them much of a chance, When I saw what they were going for used, I sold them in like 20 minutes on Reverb or Ebay iirc.
     
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    Do you play with much gain? Have any noise issues with the64’s?
     
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    Bardens are best playing live with a band and with a little hair on them, the hum canceling is useful. Fender OVs sound fine live.
     
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    Bardens don't sound like single coils to my ears. I like them with compression. I think you either want that sound or you want a traditional single coil sound.
     
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    Lower the Bardens and enjoy more refinement than jacked up.
     
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    Kindness046

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    Yeah it’s a tough call. I can get about the same tones outta each set through a dimed deluxe reverb. Just gotta mess with the volume and tone on the guitar.

    Was debating on swapping back the 64’s but think I’m just gonna leave the bardens in. Save the 64’s for another partscaster.
     
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