Fender Has The Twin, VOX The AC30, What Is Marshall's Iconic Amp?

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  1. taxer

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    Fender has The Twin, Roland has its Jazz Chorus, Vox has it's AC30, what is Marshall's signature, iconic amp?
     
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    There are a few, the Jtm45, plexi super lead, bluesbreaker, jcm800. Marshall is one hell of a company.
     
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    I think of the Plexi and JCM800.
     
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    Thanks.
    Had an idea it couldn't be pinned down to just one.

    But what was the one Hendrix used? Think Hendrix and an amp, one thinks Marshall. Wouldn't that model be Marshall's iconic amp?
     
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    I would think the SLP and 800 too.

    Possibly the SLP more so than the 800. But to be fair to them, they've had 2 defining amps in 2 completely separate generations.
     
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    I think using the all encompassing term of "plexi" would suffice as Marshalls iconic amp. However, Marshall is more about the iconic look of the "stack" rather than a specific amp. People always refer to it as "blaring through a wall of Marshall stacks" or something along those lines.
     
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    IMO, all of their amps are too damn loud. No one really needs a half stack, right?

    That being said, I would say the JTM45 and the JCM800, as well as the early plexi-faced stuff.
     
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    ICONIC would have to be the "bluesbreaker", an amp made on the behest of Eric Clapton. basically a 50w replacement for the VOX AC30 Clapton had been using. Used on the 'John Mayal & the Bluesbreakers w/ Eric Clapton' "BEANO" album known for the woman tone wtf that is. That is the album that let guitarists around the world know that the party was on, Clapton was anointed as the GOD of tone, largely on the sound of the Freddie King 'Hideaway' cut.

    Most insAne would have to be the first 100w big amps and stacks made in 1968 for Hendrix and later Cream, best known for, other than damaging walls in arenas, being such hot amps that Jim Marshall assigned company techs to tour with them and to rebuild the heads after each show, the company forwarding cartons of replacement KT66 tubes and giant plate torching power supplies. Output transformers went up in smoke as well.
    Ever see NHRA Drag Racing on TV or person? Where the Pro Nitro teams rebuild each run replacing most parts due to internal carnage? The first year 100w Marshall heads were said to be torn up that bad after a session of Jimi and Noel dimeing them into 2 stacks each. The next year gentler power supplies were used for reliability as other customers clamored to have there own wall of Marshalls. Im pleased to say I once witnessed such Hendrix MAYHEM at Denver University.

    Later 70s and 80s groups needed the stacks for show as it was expected by the fans. Eventually degrading into this faux backline with heads direct to 1000w PA system.
    Contrast with the earlier Greatful Dead stage home brewed power towers, courtesy of Stanley Owsley of White Lightning and Blue Cheer fame. This pic from Boulder Stadium as I recall.
     

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    My stepdad whose been a guitar player his whole life, in amazing bands, always referred to the best punk (rock) sound is a 50 watt Marshall half stack. No model, just 50 watt half stack
     
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    If I had to narrow it down to one it'd have to be the 50 or 100 watt "plexi" (the 1987 and 1959 models). They are the "Zeppelin/Free/Late Hendrix" sound. Others that people have mentioned (the JTM45 and JCM800) are certainly important historically, but I don't think they represent the height of Marshall prowess...the birth of the full-stack and hard rock.
     
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    Fender has way more than one iconic amp:

    Tweed Deluxe
    Bassman
    Princeton (brown & BF)
    Deluxe Reverb
    Twin Reverb

    are all iconic, at the very least.
     
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    I was certainly thinking that pegging Fender as the "Maker of the Twin" was leaving out several possibly more important amps, the 5E3 Deluxe and 5F6(a) Bassman at minimum.

    But if we're talking about iconic, as in 'the amp people picture when you say "Marshall Amp"', then it has to be a stack of some sort, presumably one of the older, so-called 'Plexis', on top of a pair of 4x12s. Possibly not the most important to Marshall, but the one we think of when Marshall is mentioned. For younger folks, it might be a JCM era, but still a head/stack.

    Ask me which one I'd like to own, and it's a Bluesbreaker, no doubt.
     
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    This was my thought.
     
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    I had a JCM800 50-watt 2x12 combo for quite a while which was the exact Marshall equivalent to the Twin / AC30 -- loud, compact big-gig amp. Groovy amp when it worked, which wasn't always. But this isn't what anybody thinks of when you say Marshall.

    I go with 50-watt anything all-tube into a 4x12. Turn 'em up loud and they all sound the same. (I know, I know, you can tell the difference. But the audience can't.)
     
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    The Super Lead and the JCM800 are two of my favorite sounding amps. To my ears, that's Rock ' Roll!
     
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    I’d say of all of those only the Twin is iconic. The rest of those wouldn’t have stood up to an iconic drummer…
     
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    Agreed. Also, like it or not...the Hot Rod Deville/Deluxe ..Blues Deville/Deluxe, have made their mark on every Pro Stage around the World for more than 20 years. These amps can be found on most stages/bandstands with more consistancy then any other amp these days. In my opinion, thats a very strong statement. And please....Speaker & Tube changes, are not exclusive to the 'Hot Rod' amp line.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that a Bassman can handle any drummer, but it'll be tweed-y, not 'sparkl-y', like a Twin.

    And I'm sorry, I didn't realize that Iconic=Loud as He!!. The Champ is iconic, but it'd be hard pressed to keep up with a 9-year-old on drums.

    The Hot Rod series (at least the deluxe) is reportedly the best selling tube amp (line) in history. I don't think that necessarily makes it iconic, cause Ford sold a LOT of Escorts, right?
     
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    I also agree - & really thought about putting the Deville/Deluxe in there. These amps sure are everywhere, & sure sound good.

    Maybe what I was thinking is that they didn't achieve any iconic status as a CIRCUIT
     
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