I must have led a charmed life. Not once has one of those hot finicky antiquated tubes ever let me down. Pots, fuses, caps yeah, but never tubes. I'm sure I've been lucky and tubes do give problems but I'm also pretty sure some comments on this thread have exaggerated the issue. I'm also pretty sure Mr Norvell and others are exaggerating the supply issues too. Ongoing demand from the guitar amp and high end audio markets will ensure ongoing supply.
Fender: Future of Amps
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Blrfl
Friend of Leo's
Tubes last a very long time if they're not abused. The high voltages they require to operate cause the supporting parts to degrade faster than in lower-voltage, solid-state circuits. So I suppose that if it weren't for the tubes, the rest of the circut would last a lot longer.
Brent Hutto
Tele-Afflicted
I totally believe Goonie if he says his tube amp has never needed a tube replaced.
I also totally believe that 99% or more of Tonemasters will be working fine in 10 years time, not “in the landfill” a year after their warranty ends.
I also totally believe that 99% or more of Tonemasters will be working fine in 10 years time, not “in the landfill” a year after their warranty ends.
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Once you learn how to dial it in, and assuming you have access to a nice PA, a modeler with a full range monitor or in-ears is a wonderful thing. Why do you need an old fashioned paper speaker in a wooden box? It’s just something extra to carry around, and you’ll still need a monitor to hear everyone else anyway.
I understand what you are saying , but I’m just like my dogs, we’re old, and not able to learn new tricks apparently. I have to laugh at myself!
__HKGuns__
Tele-Meister
Take predictions with a grain of salt.
Fender: "The Cyber Twin is a Masterpiece, we think it will be in the line for a long time to come -- hopefully forever alongside the Twin and other Fender icons."
- The Soul of Tone page 454
Fender: "The Cyber Twin is a Masterpiece, we think it will be in the line for a long time to come -- hopefully forever alongside the Twin and other Fender icons."
- The Soul of Tone page 454
I still think they’d sell a billion if they made some small head versions ala Peavey, Friedman, Orange etc. Id love a Vibro-something in a budget head. They could sell a few different heads and cabs to match your preferred era. The TMs cost more that something doing the same thing but with much more variety. Katana etc.
BlueShadows
Tele-Meister
I think in many ways the digital/tube debate is apples/oranges, and Fender is (rightfully) doing what they can to cover all of the market. The dollars and cents of it is tube purists who will only play an amp if it is pre-1976 all stock are not making Fender any money presently; Fender is needing to appeal to consumers who are buying direct from them, and in terms of new gear I think that is going to be skewed digital based on where the market is moving generally. Tube purists may not like it, but then again they probably aren’t going to be buying “new” tube reissues from Fender either; Fender is watching where the money is going.
I am definitely a tube fan overall for most of my playing, but not going to lie, the occasion when I haul my 20lb Tone Master Twin Reverb to a gig and have no one either notice the difference nor care is always a pleasant experience.
I am definitely a tube fan overall for most of my playing, but not going to lie, the occasion when I haul my 20lb Tone Master Twin Reverb to a gig and have no one either notice the difference nor care is always a pleasant experience.
One thing folks, who are saying they've never found a modeller sounding like real tubes don't like to say, or even think about, is that they probably will find such a beast in the future as processing power increases and algorithms get more refined.
And myself? Well I'm playing through a cheapo Roland Cube 80X COSM, because I'm finding a couple of its amp models very good and usable. Are they exactly like their real-life tube counterparts then? No, but who cares, because they sound good in their own right! And we're talking about an ancient modeller here...
And myself? Well I'm playing through a cheapo Roland Cube 80X COSM, because I'm finding a couple of its amp models very good and usable. Are they exactly like their real-life tube counterparts then? No, but who cares, because they sound good in their own right! And we're talking about an ancient modeller here...
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Possibly not yet, but they will. Trust me on this.
__HKGuns__
Tele-Meister
I thought this was well done.
I fixed it for you.
Thomann.de says 12,4 kgI fixed it for you.
Fender Tone Master Princeton Reverb
Modelling Combo Amplifier for Electric Guitar 1 Channel, Power: 12 watts, Speaker configuration: 10" Jensen C10R, Construction: open, Controls: Volume, Treble, Bass, Reverb, Speed, Intensity, Effects: Reverb and tremolo, Input 1: 6.3 mm jack, Input...
www.thomann.de
Both Sweetwater and American Musical Supply list the TM Princeton at just shy of 20 lbs (9.02 kgs).
I don't have one but I did lift one in a GC a while back and was pretty impressed at how light they are.
I don't have one but I did lift one in a GC a while back and was pretty impressed at how light they are.
Blrfl
Friend of Leo's
Fender agrees on the 20 lb/9 kg number:
HolmfirthNJ
Tele-Meister
I see Fender have built some obscure hand wired amp for Joe Bonamassa to sell on his website*, so they obviously haven't given up completely on new hand wired tube amps - I just wish they'd get around to building a very-much-more-useful, brand new, hand wired Silverface Champ, before I get too old to remember why I wanted one
*I have no problem with Joe Bonamassa btw - it's just that a Silverface Champ would be so much cooler than the '48 Fender Dual Professional would seem to be
*I have no problem with Joe Bonamassa btw - it's just that a Silverface Champ would be so much cooler than the '48 Fender Dual Professional would seem to be
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teletail
Friend of Leo's
Every time I read these threads I’m amused yet again by people who couldn’t run a kid’s lemonade stand telling us all what Fender, one of the most successful musical instrument companies of all time is doing wrong.
That amp (Dual Professional) looks killer!I see Fender have built some obscure hand wired amp for Joe Bonamassa to sell on his website*,
26 watts, 2x10", Vol & Tone, 37 lbs ...
The perfect Tweed club amp.
$3500.00 - too rich for my blood.
