FENDER 68 CUSTOM DELUXE SPEAKER UPGRADE?

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  1. BigJamEnergy

    BigJamEnergy TDPRI Member

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    I've had a 68 Custom Deluxe for a year or so now, and to be hones I think it sounds like dog a**. Super flubby/saggy in the bottom end, and generally kind of muddy. Also seems to have very little headroom. Any idea's for an upgrade from the G12 v-70 that may solve some of my issues?
    Much appreciated,
    Stirling
     
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    Chiogtr4x Poster Extraordinaire

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    I can only use my ( sadly gone) real 1968 DR as a reference,
    but as I wanted the amp to be ' big and clean' ( and tonally well balanced), a 120 watt Eminence Red, White, and Blues was a fantastic speaker.
    ( I think the Speaker had just come out, got good initial reviews, and was affordable- I bought it based on Emi's description)

    I ran the amp Volume at about 4-5 max, and 'toggled' between that clean and loud tone and a few TS-style OD' ( set at moderate Drive for a distorted tone) set a little louder. It worked great that way ( my tech really liked my speaker choice!)

    That DR had a great sound, miss it.
     
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    Hate to be that guy, but it sounds like you should switch to the 65 RI

    Speaker change in my 68 CPR made a big difference though. Went from stock celestion to G10 vintage celestion to emi alessandro - which really balanced out the low end mud. I also modded the bass pot by jumpering the resister.

    Love that amp. Had the 68 deluxe as well . Liked it, but too loud for me. Now I just run a 1x12 Ext cab with a greenback when I need a bigger sound, and mic it if needed.
     
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    Alessandro GA-SC64. .

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    I put a Warehouse Veteran 30 in my 68 CDRRi, and it sounds awesome. More sparkle and less flatulence.
     
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    Musekatcher Friend of Leo's

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    Whats a CPR? And, when you run your 1x12 extension, is that parallel or in series? I'm looking to add an extension for two reasons: more speaker, and to use the ext cab to elevate my combo, and ditch the stand I've been using.

    PS - CPR Custom Princeton Reverb, duh.
     
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    +1...I also put an Alessandro G10SC64 in mine, and completed the 18K resistor bass mod.
     
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    For a normal DR I would recommend:
    Emi GA SC64
    Emi Red White And Blues
    Weber 12F150 50 watt
    Weber Silver Bell 50-75 watt

    BUT, You may need to change to the 65RI to clean things up. I dont think the G12-70 is noted as muddy/flabby though....?
    To mod the 68 RI more like a 65 RI, isn't it must a few small things?
    What are your tone settings? I'm usually at 4 bass, and 5.5 treble on a DR.
     
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    I unplug the 10 and run the 12 only when I'm doing that. I prefer the sound. And it's 8 ohms, which is what the amp wants.
     
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    Part of the perceived low headroom is because of the amp's design. The '68 custom amp series is designed to breakup a little earlier on purpose, compared to the '65 reissue amps (I'm not entirely how to explain it circuit-wise).

    Now, to try and fix the amp's output, a speaker with a higher efficiency rating could help.
    I recommend the Eminence Lil' Texas speaker. I tried one in my 65 DRRI, and it was great. The Lil' Texas speaker has great headroom, and has a nice, full low-end and stays tight, too. Great clarity when I had it in my 65 DRRI. Also, having a neodymium magnet means that the speaker weighs in at 4lbs, which makes the amp even more portable.
     
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    Hate to break it to you - you don't like the amp. Or there is something wrong with yours.

    The Celestion V Type is a great speaker. And a great fit for that circuit.

    The headroom on the Vintage channel is basically identical to the 65 reissue.
     
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    Darn, not what I wanted to hear. So I'm thinking of adding an extension, but need to decide on two 4 ohm'ers in series, or two 16 ohm'ers in parallel.
     
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    Thanks for all the responses! Looks like I will be checking out the Alessandro and the R/W/Blues. And to address some of the questions, While I do run the amp quite loud, often on 6-7, and I am aware that it is supposed to break up early, however when I plug a humbucker into it it sounds like a big muff goin thru a wet paper bag! Clarity and definition totally lost!. Anyways, Thanks a bunch for yalls input. Gonna do a little more research and try something out.
    Keep ya posted
     
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    ALSO: looking at the alessandro, it is only rated for 40w. What will change if I were to step down from the 70w v-type to 40? Just curious.
     
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    Hi Stirling, I've got a 68 custom, it was pretty flabby... I fitted a Cannabis Rex but it was still quite flabby. This is my work around...

    I find using a treble booster in front of it completely reduces the flabby bottom, I put the booster on full and use the guitar volume for clean/dist. The amps volume is on 8 (Treble 6 Bass 4) and use an attenuator to bring down the overall volume down.

    Cheers
    George
     
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    Hmm ok interesting. Ill keep that in mind, treble booster IS something on the list anyways :eek:. Thanks George!
     
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    Love Alnicos in those.
    IMHO
     
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