Favorite rappers/rap groups/rap songs?

ReverendRevolver

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Most of my forays toward covering rap songs guitar wise were to get people paying attention; Just a Friend by Biz Marquis, Regulate by Warren G, and covering Afro Man. I am still a fan of Afro Man, as a maker of music and often times just as a dude full of funny. (Hope his recent troubles subside)

But as far as just listening, Outkast, Wu Tang, Public Enemy, and the aforementioned AfroMan. Now, one of my best friends growing up inherited his musical tastes when we were young from his dad(quite dark skinned, from Indianapolis originally), so Luther Vandross and Boyz2Men were as likely to be heard over there as Bone Thugs and nwa. I feel like us getting into metal, grunge, and edgier rap was in many ways how we thought we were "branching out on our own " but in retrospect it wasn't that far from where either of us started.

I'm that age where Eminem was "our" thing. Then we got excited when The Eminem Show LP dropped, were loving "without me" and thinking Superman would be our vulgar deep cut favorite..... then he went to the absolute top of the mainstream. 8 mile soundtrack, D12, Curtain Call..... everything since hasn't been "bad", but it just never connected.

Bone Thugs I never dove really into, I can probably remember most of the words that aren't busy bones' fast part in Crossroads though.

Outkast is underrated. Everyone knows miss Jackson and Hey ya. Yes, they're good songs and potent earworms. Aquimini was a great album. Everything after was at least solid, even speakerbox/love below (filler is filler, it was still good).

I know, "guitar forum, rap bad". Dub step is trash. I said it. Anything associated with ICP is just going to annoy me, and thier fans are probably a big part of it since neither Jay or Shaggy have personally wronged me (and I admire their dedication to a local soft drink manufacturer). I hate ICP and all associated music.

Tupac is hype. There, said that too. Has good songs. Not as many as Biggie Smalls. Better at writing than rapping. Is what it is. Lil Kim should be on more tshirts. I digress.
Lastly, I hoped Soulja Boy would get more than 1.5 big songs. Crank Dat and Ya 'trick' ya didn't seem like it would be all he'd put out that'd take off. I never understood Lil Wayne being famous and huge (oh, a Flintstones pun, funny the first time I heard it) but Soulja Boy nit hitting bigger heights. Lil Jon, who has had his hand in most of the even slightly interesting mainstream rap hits, is a fan of Bad Brains, Agent Orange, and the chili peppers. Says he used to listen to Skynard when he was young.

Lots of mainstream modern rap is boring. The genre is most certainly not boring or unmusical.

I'm not going to talk about Ye. There was always talent, that doesn't inherently make me a fan.
 
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ReverendRevolver

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Your point?

I once performed “brown sugar” in a cover band. Don’t think I’d do that anymore.
Context. Dave Chappelle could do a sketch where a band covers it in 2023. He could make it work. I most certainly cannot.

I'd LOVE to hear Deep Vally cover Under My Thumb.
 

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Hi.

Don’t know that much about rap. In part, cause I’m kinda afraid to look into it. Just too vast to play catch-up with. If that makes sense.

But, I do like the Beastie Boys. Are they rap? Have three albums by them.

I do like toasting. That’s more my thing. I’ve still got a fair bit of U-Roy, but seem to have misplaced others.

Natty Rebel. Obviously draws from Soul Rebel.



And here’s U-Roy’s take on Proud Mary. Kinda.



Pax & sorry for the semi-hijack/
Dean
 

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Context. Dave Chappelle could do a sketch where a band covers it in 2023. He could make it work. I most certainly cannot.

I'd LOVE to hear Deep Vally cover Under My Thumb.
I still don’t get it. A lot of rap undeniably glorifies things that shouldn’t be glorified, period. Is there a cultural and societal underpinning that leads to those perspectives? Sure. Does that mean we should celebrate it? No. Have we (or at least many of us) stopped celebrating some songs from the past because we’ve learned a few things? Yes.

You can know about context and understand what it does to people (at least somewhat) without wanting to listen to certain music.
 

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My favorite rap group is Bone Thugs N Harmony, and not just because I'm from Cleveland. They're just heads and shoulders above anyone else I've heard, both as a group and each member individually. Their speed is of course the first thing most people will notice about them--all four (really five) members are tongue-blisteringly fast--but within that they use these sophisticated phrasings and polyrhythms and clever internal rhymes. I tend to like my rap over-the-top violent, and they deliver on that front as well, while avoiding rapping about women and sex, which happens to be something I don't like in my rap, so it's a double-win.

Even though I got into Bone Thugs embarrassingly late (just a couple years ago, I'm ashamed to say), their rap puts me right back in my teenage years, cruising through East Cleveland late at night with my friends, doing things we shouldn't have been doing, going to corners we shouldn't have been going to, acquiring substances we shouldn't have been acquiring. Ahh, those were the good old days.

One critique I'll bet many people have of Bone Thugs is that their beats are cheesy. Although this critique just isn't true for some of their well-known songs--"Thuggish Ruggish Bone", "Thug Luv", and "Notorious Thugs" have beats that are as iconic and hard-hitting as anything out there--I'll admit a lot of their songs do have some...counterintuitive things going on in the instrumental side. For example, "Shoot'em Up". But, what I actually like about this aspect of their music is that these gentle soft beats accentuate the violence and menace of the lyrics. Somehow it works perfectly.

There are other rappers I like a lot, but rather than write more paragraphs about them I'll ask you: who are your favorite rappers/rap groups? What are some of your favorite rap songs?

And as a bonus: have you incorporated any elements of rap into the stuff you play on your guitar?
Big BTnH fan here too. I even like Wish and EVERYBODY seems to hate on his lines :lol:. Love some Nappy Roots too, Delinquent Habits, South Park Mexican, Wu-Tang... Too many to list. I grew up listening to all flavors of rap.
 

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Stricken.

Anyway here's some deep cuts from my aforementioned GOATs.









RTJ is another good modern call, have seen 'em live twice. El-P's been great forever, here's one from him (and he was good way before this with Company Flow; no end of acts like Cannibal Ox, Hangar 18 from his label too).

 
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My older brothers were starting high school when rap was in its infancy and they really got into it. Therefore, I heard a lot of the early stuff when I was 5 or 6 years old. I still listen to some of it today and still think it's great.

Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five
Kurtis Blow
Afrika Bambaataa
Whodini
George Clinton (Atomic Dog era)
Sugarhill Gang

Not to mention some of the rap/hip-hop groups I happened to be into during my teen years.

EPMD
NWA
Beastie Boys
Too Short
Brand Nubian
DJ Quick
The Pharcyde
Digital Underground
Del Tha Funke Homosapien

I could go on......
 

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I'm by no means a hip hop head, but at any given time over the past 40 years there are a handful I'm really into. In somewhat chronological order:

Public Enemy
Beastie Boys
De La Soul -- 3 Feet High and Rising has finally been reissued!
A Tribe Called Quest
Outkast
Kanye West -- at least through Yeezus.
Kendrick Lamar
Chance the Rapper

Outkast is underrated. Everyone knows miss Jackson and Hey ya. Yes, they're good songs and potent earworms. Aquimini was a great album. Everything after was at least solid, even speakerbox/love below (filler is filler, it was still good).

Outkast is one of the best groups of the last 30 years full stop. The four album run of ATLiens--Aquemini--Stankonia--Speakerboxxx/The Love Below is as good as any other classic album run.
 
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