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Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by Digital Larry, Dec 5, 2019.
anything by Tears For Fears
Any one of the posthumously released Hendrix albums.
So, you are saying that 99% of his catalog is overproduced?
Yep but masterfully overproduced.
Nobody knows what his creative vision was and he wasn't around for that 99% so we get the McDonald's happy meal versions that are incredibly good regardless.
I second this.
"Sowing the Seeds of Love:" That mix still amazes me. It's over-produced, sure, but a technical masterpiece.
Yeah, I’d say the first Boston album and a lot of Queen is overproduced, but also that’s THE sound.
One could argue really convincingly that those wouldn’t be classic albums without being over the top.
"Overproduced" could be more objectively judged according to the artists themselves, i.e. when they have stated the producer(s) betrayed their music.
In this case, I would vote Nevermind by Nirvana: relatively to their other released music, it surely sounds far more "produced", but I love it the way it is. They notoriously were unhappy with Butch Vig's production though.
I'm not sure if he really was unhappy with the production, but I would say that Jeff Buckley's Grace debut album is a bit overproduced, especially relatively to the way he played the songs live. Buckley's singing could sound a bit mannered sometimes, so I think a rawer sound was balancing it nicely. Grace is nevertheless a favourite of mine, and the production makes it sound delicate and refined.
When working on what would unfortunately become his posthumous second album, Buckley asked producer Tom Verlaine (which he admired from the Television era) to split with the sound of Grace. Of course he passed when he was planning to re-record the entire album, so nobody can judge what it would have ended sounding, but the irony is I find the Verlaine's sessions are as much "produced" as Grace was.
Coincidentally, these two albums were mixed (and also produced in the case of Grace) by Andy Wallace.
“Be Here Now” - Oasis
“The Slider” - T. Rex
And I love both of those albums, almost because of the over production. Those bands at the time of those albums are flying high (in more ways than one), completely in love with the fame they’ve achieved and totally in love with themselves. And you can hear it on the albums and it helps make those albums pretty great, imho.
Never Mind the Bollocks. Impeccable production – viewed as one of the pinnacles of the punk rock sound and aesthetic.
Same with first three Ramones albums. Absolutely perfect production – largely viewed as a sonic pinnacle of punk "rawness."
These sonic cornerstones of "dirty" punk rock are actually some of the best produced records of all time IMO.
Raw Power, OTOH, is another of those cornerstones (while not being a "punk" record itself), and it is one of the worst produced famous records of all time. It improved markedly when remastered from the original tracks for digital. I can't listen to it on vinyl. It's awful. Songs are great, playing is great...but it is significantly worsened by it's production, and that's stating it mildly.
Also “End of the Century” by the Ramones. Phil Spector working with a punk band. It wasn’t fun for them to make but the songs are great and the production is just so weird I can’t help but love it.
the first album i had that i thought was overproduced was 'leftoverture' by kansas.i started hitting up the punk and new wave after that.
I do not know if the term "overproduced" applies, because I tend to think that if it sounds good, it is not overproduced so to speak.
Anyway, Lou Reed's "Berlin", Leonard Cohen's "Death of a ladies man", or "End of the Century" by The Ramones are among my favorite "produced in an unusual way (if not overproduced)" albums, compared to the rather stripped sound presented on other albums by these artists
The Phil Spector ...Let it be ... By and large Ughhh
Any album produced by Jeff Lynne. Yet, I still love him.
I thought Boston recorded live in studio? Or was it they didn't use synthesizers? I will ask my cousin, they recorded one of his songs (Cant Ya Say) on the Third Stage album.
No real opinion on these. Re: QUEEN, I’m really a fan of only their singles. Same with BOSTON. And recently have only heard them on the radio where compression can make anything sound good.
However my recollection of hearing both bands on a high school friend’s expensive system is that they sounded huge. That 70s drum sound is thunderous. And the guitar sounds are unimpeachable.
To me, anything with the "phil collins drum sound" is over-produced. That's pretty much all the music of an entire decade.
Agree. Whoever decided to record drums in the 80s the way they often did should be strung up...
First thing that comes to mind are the Miles Davis studio albums from Bitches Brew to the Jack Johnson soundtrack.
Here's some Sonny Sharrock playing mostly left on the editing room floor as far as the original LP is concerned: