Favorite overproduced albums

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  1. Digital Larry

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    I'm going to start with an overproduced album that IMO mostly sucked pretty hard, The Doors' "Soft Parade". I think producer Paul Rothchild said something like, "the star is getting a little old and wrinkly, gotta apply some makeup". So yeah, add some sax and violins while Jim gets off in the vocal booth (eek).

    Moving right along, I find the following CDs overproduced but I don't think it was necessarily to close the gaps on lack of ideas or bad performances. In most cases the result to my ears is "cinematic", whatever that means. I think they're great!

    a) Ashley MacIsaac "Hi, How Are You Today?"
    b) Annebjorg Lien, "Baba Yaga"
    c) The Mermen, "The Amazing California Health and Happiness Road Show"
    d) Frank Zappa, "You Are What You Is"
     
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    With the exception of Follow Me Down, I liked Soft Parade in spite of the over production. If you get the recently released 50th anniversary edition, the 'Naked' versions of all the orchestrated songs are included as bonus tracks.
     
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    I used to think this album was over produced because all the critics at the time told me that it was. But I’ve come to believe that production choices are just that, production choices. To say that a classic album is overproduced is an paradox in my opinion...





     
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    1. The Wall - Pink Floyd
    2. Dark Side Of The Moon - Pink Floyd
    3. Goodby Yellow Brick Road - Elton John
    4. Scream - Chris Cornell
    5. Eliminator/Afterburner - ZZ Top
     
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  5. Digital Larry

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    I purposely left it open to interpretation. In the case of Ashley MacIsaac, that recording is unlike most of his others in that it seems "big budget". Quite a few of his other recordings are just him and a guitar player or piano accompaniment. Annebjorg Lien, similar story.

    I think it also makes a difference whether the artist themselves was the producer, which is true in the case of the Mermen and FZ.
     
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    Overproduced: meaning that the production was so pompous that drowned everything else or was much better than the compositions...

    Or what do you think overproduced means, i am not realy sure. Is it always bad?

    Many people claim that GNR's Use Your Illusion albums were overproduced but i think that a good production makes the music sound better richer and you have always new elements that you hadnt noticed previously every time u listen to the album.

    But i guess there are bad examples too.
     
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    I getcha.

    I don’t know all of the records on your list. Regarding Ashley MacIsaac, my problem was always that god awful, thin sounding OVATION acoustic he used on his early albums...
     
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    Most artists, especially inexperienced ones, have no clue how to produce records and make horrible choices.
     
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    XTC-Oranges and Lemons
     
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    Didn't Paul complain about Phil Spector's orchestration on "Long and Winding Road....?"
    Wonder who made THAT decision?
     
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    Not sure I'd call it overproduced, but I've wondered what Back in the High Life would sound like if it were recorded in the early '70s.

    Same with the Traveling Wilburys albums without the Jeff Lynne wankery.
     
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    Eric Clapton- Behind the Sun.

    You can tell in 15 seconds who is drumming, who is on the synth, and there were some pretty big names invited to sit in and make this album. Lots of production, lots of mixing, and I still love it.

    ~syf
     
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    What I had in mind was mostly "compared to most of the artist's other work". I'm surprised Todd Rundgren hasn't popped up but his stuff was generally pretty thick sonically. Another possible interpretation is "compared to how they sound live" and finally "where is the Mellotron".
     
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    George Martin said the Let It Be production credit should be “Produced by George Martin, Over-produced by Phil Spector”. It’s still a great album — but I do prefer the ...Naked version.
     
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    Def Leppard's Hysteria is the first thing that leaps to my mind
     
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    Queen II. Very over produced for its time, especially on just a 16 track set up, but still an outstanding album imo.
     
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    Aldo Nova and Boston albums came to mind.
    Both good albums though.
     
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    The Cult-The Manor Sessions. It's "Electric" before Rick Rubin got his mitts on it



    Rubin did a better job but this is pretty cool, too
    Still, def overproduced
     
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    One of the remaining Doors (I forgot who, probably guitarist Robby Krieger) said that The Soft Parade was basically their experimental branching out version of "Sgt Peppers", which many bands did. The Stones did it with "Her Satanic Majesties..."
    I like the Soft Parade album, despite all the violins and orchestration. Morrison's voice was strong. I think the title cut is somewhat jazzy. (Cancel my subscription to the...resurrection!).

    Touch Me is a damn good song, still retaining the basic Doors sound of keyboard and guitar with killer sax, with a few violins in the background. Robbie Krieger originally titled it Hit Me, but Morrison refused to sing that , fearing what would happen on stage. Its ironic that Robbie has a black eye when they played the tune on the Jonathan Winters Show in late '68 (can probably find it on youtube).
     
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