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Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Hoodster, Aug 11, 2019.
This worked for me:
Interesting! I'd never heard of that. Thanks for posting!
Interesting idea... but maybe a kneeboard (or two, depending upon amp's footprint) might be a bit less expensive and accomplish the same thing? And you could do a bit of occasional concrete finishing? Choice of colors.
Makes perfect sense, but I decoupled by building a simple 4x6 stage in my room. The amps that I use the most sit on that when I play....costs only $30 in supplies.
For playing outside the home, I could see that being handy.
If I may ask what material did you build your stage out of?
A sheet of plywood/mdf ?
And how high off the floor is it?
It was made out of pine (standard framing like a vintage Fender 2x12 cab) using 1x4's and a 1/2 inch plywood sheet. It was covered with a trimmed piece of an entry mat and some cheap blackout curtains to make some skirting. It holds about 240 lbs on a daily basis without trouble and would place the stage platform at 3.5 inches off the floor and the amp feet at just under 4 inches. Nothing special, but it was cheap and took about 2 hours to construct. It really does the job though at decoupling from the flooring and provides a better response than sitting on plush carpet.
Forgive the mess in the photo, I am in the middle of re-arranging the room for carpet cleaning.
Never use that kind of language on a guitar forum!
Tuning mine off usually makes me sound better to others
I have one of those (decoupler)
Good for certain stages, but, that
was all I got it for. Perhaps tweaking
in the studio too.
Quite true. The correct forum answer is to buy more gear, especially more expensive gear.
A plastic milk crate does it for me...free, and reduces cabinet/surface contact to near zero.
Milk or beer crates used to do the trick. Nowadays, I use an amp stand. If you've just spent $55 on a section of gym mat, I suspect you'll be blown away by it too. It doesn't angle the speaker toward the ear either. Hmm. Pass.
I can't take acoustic advice from someone in such a bad-sounding room seriously.
Edit: I'm sorry, @Hoodster. I didn't know it was you in the video. I thought you'd posted someone else's video and were confirming that the product works.
If you think it's just "a section of gym mat" then you probably haven't tried one.
Sure, DIYing this isn't rocket science, but the concept is solid.
Everyone here has probably thousands of dollars in gear and has spent 2- 4 times this on little boxes with a few dollars of components, yet $55 is all of a sudden too dear.
I just bought a better-sounding house for my amp to resonate with. Problem solved.
Gym mats are 1~2" thick, dense, heavy material. I'm not referring to the roll-up type ( yoga mat? ), but to the substantial ones, whose material also makes its way into soundproofing, sound deadening and vibration nulling applications. Slightly more modern materials than crumb+filler have come along in recent years, which has at least made them less dense and cripplingly heavy. The idea, application and marketing goes back a long way. Replacement kneeler pads used to be pressed into service atop an upturned milk crate to similar effect, plus it made them more comfy to sit on.
The concept is partly valid, and certainly can form part of an arsenal, however, keeping the driver close to the ground and the centre line of the coil parallel will still yield ground effects, even if the cabinet is wholly decoupled. This may be desirable for a 2x12" vertical cabinet, or it may not, depending on the surface beneath. For a single driver, breaking the forward ground effect from the cone is often desirous, and a parallel, floor mounted mat can only yield the cab decoupling aspect.
Mat<milk crate<angle stand
$55 is cheap if it provides a detectable benefit, it's expensive it it sits gathering dust. I'd like to see/hear a room demo with a binaural, centre placed mic pair. Pictures of kittens being shown while a looper pedal is deployed to provide consistency. Sound 'A'/Sound 'B'. No visual clues, just start the looper, stop the looper, place/replace the mat, start the looper, stop the looper. Blind test it.
i use two different things. 1. large sweetwater catalog(no connection to them) 2. wooden box with the memory foam for standing purchased at harbor freight. 4 pieces for $9 with each being about 36"x24". i even used one attached to the wall in my closet, for earthquake proofing, for my acoustic guitars that i store there.