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Fake 52 tele?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by Stallion, Nov 19, 2020.

  1. Stallion

    Stallion TDPRI Member

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    Hi,
    Been suspicious a long time due to not being able to identify serial number..
    Took the neck off.. what do you say?
    as you might have discovered, i’m not an Expert here..
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  2. unixfish

    unixfish Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I am not an expert on this either, but:

    This looks like a 2014 model - maybe a AVRI / 52 Reissue? I can only see three pictures, but I think that is what they are showing me.

    If this really were a true 1952 Telecaster, a 68 year old guitar, there would not be stamped dates; everything would be hand written in pencil.

    Not sure if I answered your question - maybe I misunderstood what you were asking.
     
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  3. Stallion

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    Sorry, should have said i know this is not a 52 original. I know it is from 2014. So i still Wonder, is the 52 reissue for real? Reason Why i Ask is lack of confirmation on serial number, and Welasco marked on the neck?? Bet I stand out as stupid here, but it don’t hurt to ask:p
     
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    warrent Friend of Leo's

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    Serial number should start with a V and be on the bridge plate. The markings on the neck are fine. J Velasco is a QC stamp If I recall correctly.
     
  5. Stallion

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    D8B50281-D3FA-437F-96D2-CC106228E000.jpeg

    thanks :)
    Snr is V1321600 and it does not match with any Fender register. So you think the markings on neck and body seem legit? And Velasco marking is fender neck?
     
  6. Wulf

    Wulf Tele-Afflicted

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    Looks a lot like a JV squier i had in 82...that was a 52 clone..and a gud un...maybe its one of those that someone "played with"
     
  7. Stallion

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    thanks, any comnents on the body and neck markings? I have no idea about if those are normal regards to the 52 reissue
     
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  8. Wulf

    Wulf Tele-Afflicted

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    Im afraid i cant help there.
    thinking back...if i remember...the marks on mine were hand written squiggles...as for serial numbers and the like...lord knows....i know mine started JV....but thats it im afraid...i had to sell it in 83 to get a clutch cable for a ford escort...
    thing is it was good...and anyone with a modicum of braincells could quite easily have stuck a fender branded neck on...tweaked a few markings and called it real52...those jv 52s were made to orig spec with american bits and finished off in japan
    Good luck...i hope you find out....as long as it didnt cost an arm and leg and it plays and sounds good i wouldnt be too concerned myself
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  9. ronzhd

    ronzhd Tele-Holic Ad Free Member

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    You do know that you can email Fender and they will respond to your serial number inquiry.
     
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    The serial number beginning in V is an American Vintage, but NOT a 52 Reissue. The 52 Reissue had a serial number (with no letter in front) stamped on the bridge. All other American Vintage guitars DO begin in V, at least the ones from 2014 do.

    It should be easy enough to determine what plant, if any, Velasco works in. But I’m pretty sure he DOES, pretty sure I’ve seen his name on Fenders before.

    edit: ok yeah, I looked it up, a J Velasco has worked in a Fender USA plant on Vintages and Reissues.
     
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  11. Stallion

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    ok, i have to add it plays very well. I am Happy with the guitar, and it only cost half an arm.. i just need to know, hope some nerd will come to my rescue, thanks again
     
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    i know, i did, and ended up here☺️
     
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    Yep, it is v only on the serial number. Velascos presence calms me down.. i am about to realize it hopegully is an AV. more comnents still to come i hope. I love the guitar though no matter outcome of this☺️
     
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    Could be a parts guitar with real fender parts

    From what I’ve seen I don’t think anyone is faking the inspector (velasco) stamp yet

    For what it’s worth I think my jazzmaster neck was inspected and stamped by velasco
     
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  15. Stallion

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    but should it not be a Fender stamp or identification on body or neck? This is Why i am concerned
     
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    Leave it to Fender to keep things vague.

    According to the Fender Serial Guide, Your bridge looks like it has a "V + 5 or 6 digits". But it has a V and SEVEN digits - V1321600!

    For 2014: "American Vintage Series except ’52 Telecaster, which uses a five-digit number stamped into the bridge plate. For American Vintage series, check neck date for specific year."

    Based on the above, I'd bet you have a March, 2014 AVRI. Brian looked it up: "a J Velasco has worked in a Fender USA plant on Vintages and Reissues". And just looking at it - it looks exactly like my AVRI.

    My 2006 AVRI has no "Fender" stamp anywhere on the body, in the body, nor the neck heel - the only place it says "Fender" on the neck is on the headstock decal.
     
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    I haven't ever seen a Fender stamp or ID on a neck or body. It's usually a person's name, initials, date, maybe a QC sticker or some squiggly marks, but there isn't ever a Fender stamp or marking.
     
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  18. unixfish

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    Thank you for that - I was afraid you spend tens of thousands and are now realizing this was a scam. I hated typing that - but it seems this was resolved. Whew!
     
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  19. Stallion

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    ok, from what you say, it seemes my AVRI is ligit. My concern was that i was not able to identfy the model from the id on bridge plate. Other signs telles me i have a great guitar! thanks for the input. Still waiting for further input☺️
     
  20. Stallion

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    no worries☺️ The guitar is great, and seems to be the real thing.. hopefully, never thougt it was a 52 original..
     
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