Factory flaws on new guitars?

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  1. Fretting out

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    im curious how many people here have bought brand new guitars that have flaws from the factory such as wiring and pickups in wrong positions or missing parts even surprisingly big finish flaws that make it past quality control.
    An example that I experienced is I bought a new 2018 Johnny Marr jaguar in LPB when the first came out in that color and tried it out in the store and everything seemed fine.
    After having it for a little bit and realizing what the high pass filter switch’s do I discovered that one of the switches doesn’t work.
    Also on the same guitar the bridge pickup is put in upside down (or at least the cover is)
    I always thought when the first batch/run of a new model or color came out the quality control would have extra strict tolerances to make a good name for the new product but maybe I’m wrong.

    What have you guys had wrong from the factory?
     
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    I have a 2013 Les Paul Traditional I bought from Sweetwater on which a volume knob fell off if the guitar was tipped face down.

    It was an easy fix, and Sweetwater quickly sent me a new knob. But it was still a “Really guys??” kind of moment.

    Perhaps that was the 56th point that just missed the cut on their 55-point inspection. Gibson shares some blame, but I lost some faith in their “inspections” that day.
     
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    lol, dedicated, observant hourly employees, today?...
     
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    I bought a mistreated PRS SE from the first year to two of their production (~2000 or so) and the seller told me he had problems with the jack cutting out. When I got the guitar the jack had been modded and remoded, soldered and resoldered a bunch of times, excess tape, locktite on the jack threads. Very much focused on that jack.

    The jack was not the problem .. the issue was one of the factory installed and soldered wires at the switch had been heated just a little too much and melted the insulation on a hot signal wire as it went passed the switch ground (that had gotten too much heat). So that wire would make intermittent shorts. Then the prior owner messing around with the jack wires would spread the problem wire off the short enough to 'fix it' where over play time it would wiggle back into the problem spot. Rock solid since fixing that. I've even used the same jack as they had used the permanent type locktite on the jack to the jack plate so it wouldn't come apart and I didn't feel like tracking down a replacement jack plate to install a new jack I had (I did fix their wonky soldering on the jack though).

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    2014 MIM telecaster. Ordered from GC and I opened the box at the store. Had a blob of something on the upper edge. Might have been excess finish, maybe melted packing foam. I picked it off with my nail, and it's fine otherwise.
     
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    I bought a Gibson SG "Naked" from 2016. It was a cool guitar, clear finish with P-90's and 24 frets. But looking at it from the back, the Grover type tuners were out of line. Who ever installed them at the factory let them rotate a bit before screwing them down. Look at the B and E strings especially. I could have fixed them, but why should I have to on a new guitar? I returned it.

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    My wife purchased an Ibanez bass with one fret slightly off. Seems almost impossible that this could happen with automation these days. Actually, this would seem more likely back in the 60s. Otherwise, I am so impressed how perfectly made inexpensive guitars are built today. Stunning beautiful guitars for dirt cheap. The true result and benefit of mass production. Gotta thank Henry Ford for that.
     
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    I wanted to check out the Squier Classic Vibe 50s Tele when they first came out. I played a factory fresh one at GC, and was surprised when the B, and E strings were completely dead around the 14th fret. Not a fret buzz, but a complete muting. I thought, "Come on, guys! How the Hell does something like that even get out the door."
     
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    I bought a Gretsch G5420T last September. A couple of months later I notice a grey blotch under the clear coat. It was separating. FMIC replaced the guitar.

    And I was looking at a Casino a few weeks back and almost bought it but the binding in one of the f-holes was jagged and sharp and had finish bleeding on to it.

    Then I looked at a G5220 Jet in the store two weeks ago, brand new, just off the truck and the neck pickup was fully recessed into the body so when looking from the side you could only see the pole pieces.

    Amazing what passes QC some days.
     
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    There are lots and lots of Squier "Hot Rails" Strats where the pickups are installed in the wrong positions ...

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    My first feneder telecatser mim Standard 2017 had too high frets at trebel side at 15,16,17 fret
     
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    The most predominant flaw I've seen is this on the headstock: :lol:

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    These issues are minuscule compared the glaring flaws and outright mistakes I saw on instruments coming from Taiwan, China, and Korea while working for a large-ish guitar manufacturer years ago.

    To be fair though, one of the managers told me that people working on the lines in many of these factories don't even know what an electric guitar is. They've never seen one before. They're just following instructions and hitting numbers. When you're doing piecework to feed your family I wouldn't imagine clean solder joints, nicely crowned frets, and making sure the bridge is in the correct spot are necessarily high on your list of priorities.

    I wouldn't be shocked if workers in the US and Mexico are in a similar situation.
     
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    New 2017 Pehlam blue Gibson Firebird with in 8 weeks for getting he guitar from factory the paint was starting to lift along the glue seam where the wings met the center plank. There was a production run where this happened to several Firebirds that year. Ginson thinks the finish and the glue didn't play nice with each other in that area. They took the guitar back and my retailer gave me a credit that I used to buy my Magnatone. I bought a gold Epi Bonnamassa Treasure bird at the same time. The finish was flawless and thinner than the Gibson so, yes kids, you can put poly on in thinner coats than lacquer.
     
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    I had 2001 Gibson 335 Dot that had the side octave position dots misaligned. I noticed it after purchasing it and tried to not let it bother me since I got a very good deal on it.
     
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    The Johnny Marr Jag is a bit of a different bird. The one HPF switch only works in position 4 and I'm not sure what you mean by the cover being upside-down, but the pickups are both wound the same way so you can get a bigger series humbucking sound in position 4.
    Maybe yours is wrong, but those actually sound like the designed-in features of that specific model.
     
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    Several years ago I bought a Rickenbacker 330 on Thomann, having heard multiple times about their reputation on finish and quality.

    Some finish was missing on the side of the f hole, there was a deep ding in the wood at the end of the fretboard and several frets had sprouted off and lifted the finish on the side of the neck.

    All these flaws, although unacceptable on an instrument at this price tag, were only cosmetic. But the guitar also did not feel right when I played it for the first time and it was not because of the setup which seemed ok: the guitar was quite dead sounding, as if the wood had not dried enough.

    I sent it back and Thomann sent me another one with apologies. They were very professional and nice by the way.
    The other 330 I received was really nice and quickly became my main guitar for the next couple of years.
     
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    In the 4th position if I engage the switch farthest from the strap button it’s either on or the signal completely cuts out I don’t know if this is right as this is my first marr but I would assume it would have two useable sounds

    If you look at the cover from the side it’s angled to go with the string angle over the bridge and mines in the opposite direction it’s not a big issue just annoying on an American made instrument in its price point
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    After looking at the marr jaguar again I realized both pickup covers are on backwards as the two small shielding teeth should be on the unwound strings b and e

    This is a very common mistake on Jaguars regardless of country of origin
     
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    When I went to GC around 2007 to buy my 335, the ones in stock that I checked had problems from a twisted neck to an unintentionally asymmetric neck to badly uneven binding to bridges that would not intonate to poorly dressed fret ends. I'm convinced that a lot of the guitars hanging on the walls are returns.
     
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