F150 or Ram 1500 ?

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  1. jkingma

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    I need a new vehicle. I've been a Ford guy for quite a long time. I've had a few Ford cars in the past, and I'm currently on my second SUV (Explorer) which I love, but it just doesn't have the towing capacity that I need now.

    My brother is a Ram guy. He convinced me I should try a Ram before I just go and buy another Ford. So I went and took one for a drive last night, and I have to say I was pretty impressed. And the price was about 5 grand less than a comparably equipped F150.

    I think the Ram drinks a bit more gas than the Ford. But other than that I'm finding this to be a hard choice to make at the moment.
     
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    Generally speaking, I have better luck with Chrysler products.
    I’ve owned a Ford F-150, it was great, but it was also long ago.
    I sold, albeit briefly, Dodge trucks and cars.
    I like the Ram.
    Good luck!
     
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    I owned a Dodge Intrepid and it was the most unreliable POS I have ever owned. I swore I would never buy another Chrysler product as long as I live and have kept that promise. My wife's Ford Van that was used to haul brass and iron antique beds for her Antiques store ran forever without any issues. Buy the Ford.
     
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    In the hierarchy of pickup trucks Rams are at the bottom of the list, right below Chevy. :)
     
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    I have an F-150 (2wd) I bought in 2019, specifically to tow a 7000 lb boat/trailer. At that time the F-150 had the greatest towing capacity in its class (11,000 lbs). It also has an Eco mode which is saving me a lot of money since I am travelling about 500 miles a week on the interstate. . . better gas mileage and a better turning radius than a PT Cruiser I inherited.
     
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    Half ton gas engines are a coin toss. Chevy is the most comfortable, Im a Ford man a vanilla product, Dodge only if it's diesel, their 5.7 is a gas guzzling POS, basically a car on a truck chassis, won't pull anything..
     
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    I think vehicle reliability is pretty much evened out these days. However, whenever I see Dodge vehicle, I automatically think that it must be a nightmare to maintain. I'd probably even give Chevy an edge over Ford in terms of reliability, but I'd love to have an F150.
     
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    Ford. Not a fan of recent Chrysler products.
     
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    The Ford vehicles with the turbo in our delivery fleet have worked out well. The Stellantis and German vehicles have had more annoying problems than the Fords. I'd have to say yes that they have or all can last long times but the aging Toyota and Ford vehicles don't seem as craptacular as the others.

    My sister and brother in law changed from Ford and Dodge pickups for their horse operation to Toyota. While the Tundras are not comparable in all trims, they maintain they just haven't had the stupid or annoying issues others have had. They pull same big trailers with the Toyota V8 they pulled with Dodge and Ford diesels and V10s. They consider the Tundra plenty powerful but never the annoying crap when new or as they age.
     
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    I used to sell RAM Trucks ... at one time they were decent, now not so much. In fact they are pigs. The F150 is the biggest selling pick up in the USA for a reason. I am about to buy a new Ford Ranger. Love Ford trucks ... hate their cars. I used to be a Saturn man ... owned 3 of them. Now it is HONDA all the way for me car wise ... not crazy about their pick ups.
    Speaking as a former car/truck salesman, if you are buying any truck make sure you get an extended warranty. Mostly they keep running but when they don't and it is 1 min past the mfg warranty expiration it gets very expensive.
     
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    I want to recommend Ford, but my own F-150 (Triton) has been a dog and had the engine replaced before it hit 90,000 miles (it is not a work truck or even driven hard).

    Is my 2006 analogous to the current vehicles? Not in any meaningful way except dealer/ownership experience (not great on two other Ford cars, a '12 Focus and '13 StangGT), and of the big three Ford would still get my money first. LB Tacoma for this guy next time anyhow.
     
  13. Happy Enchilada

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    Had an F150 years ago. It was solid and dependable. New ones, however, have that start/stop BS thing with the motor that supposedly saves on gas, but which drove me crazy during a test drive. Still, Ford is the benchmark for capable pickups, so that's probably what I'd go with.

    That being said, three years ago I traded my beloved '99 Explorer Sport with 200K miles in on a Chevy Colorado and it's been an amazing vehicle. Gets 24+ four-wheeling and 27+ highway. More legroom than most people need (I'm 6'6"). Drives and parks almost like a car. But not the beast to tow huge loads with, although it could tote a medium-sized travel trailer or a yard of dirt no sweat.

    I have never known anyone who owned a Chrysler product that wanted to buy another one. Ram trucks are overbuilt and suck gas because of that, but if you're towing all the time, it might be a better choice. However, most pickups get used in "truck mode" less than 2% of the time, and the rest of their days they are basically oversized, gas-guzzling cars with a box of air in back. Which is why I so love my Colorado.



    Also, Fords have great resale, and Rams not so much. Unless you plan to be buried in this truck, that's a consideration.
     
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    I’m not brand loyal.
    Various cars for the wife from most every maker.
    Trucks?
    I’ve owned a couple F-150’s.
    A Dodge 1500.
    A GMC 3500.
    Back in 2015 when I needed another main vehicle I looked around and settled on a GMC HD2500, crew cab, 8’ bed, 2wd, 6sp auto, 6.0 gas.
    Only option above is the towing package.

    I have just under 150k miles on it and it’s been the best truck I’ve ever had.
    My 2 cents.
     
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    Growing up we always had Chrysler/Dodge/Plymouth, but over the last 30 years, every one that my parents owned has had problems. I love the style, but wouldn't take one if it was free.

    As my friend always says about the F-150 - 10,000,000 rednecks can't be wrong.

    Edit - I forgot that Chrysler owns Jeep brand. I'm on my 2nd Jeep, never had a single issue with either of them.
     
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    Sold my 1999 f150 4x4 with 228k miles on it, still plenty of meat on the bone. Sold my 2007 Dodge 1500 4x4 with 189k, still plenty of meat on the bone. My GMC Sierra 1500 Z71 4x4 is coming up on 100k, no trouble other than A/C condenser and airbag recall.

    My thoughts are that if you maintain your truck properly and don't try to use a half-ton for things that you should be using a 3/4 ton or full ton for, you should get plenty of reliable miles out of it. One of the things that I thing attracts a lot of people to the Dodge is the lower price point for sure, but also their exhaust note sounds like a truck and I think that appeals to truck guys, my GMC is almost silent when it's running, which I like.
     
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    I’ve owned both and liked both. Both had/have weird quirks. Both vehicles for me were second vehicles used primarily for hauling hay, wood, trailers, etc. so my requirements may be different than yours.

    The F-150 was an ‘88, 5 speed, that I used up until 2 years ago when I found a good deal on a low mileage ‘06 Ram.

    My primary problem with trucks nowadays is that I don’t need/want all the bells and whistles and cost that goes along with it. I’m not looking for a plush ride and daily driver, I need function. I need a truck version of a Telecaster!
     
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    Had an F150 back in the day. Solid, dependable, no issues. My wife's family is all loggers and ranchers and when there's a family get-together, it's like a Ford showroom in the parking lot. Fords work for a living and that's why they're the number-one selling truck in America (and have the best resale).

    Rams are notoriously overbuilt and gas-guzzling and have craptastic resale. However, they can tow a post office all day - perhaps equal to Ford in that regard. Never knew anyone who owned a Chrysler product that wanted another one, however.

    Couple years ago I traded my beloved '99 Explorer with 200K miles in on a Chevy Colorado. Gets 24+ on the logging roads and 27+ on the highway. Great 4WD. More legroom than my 6'6" frame needs. Drives, accelerates, and parks like a car. Would tow a medium-size travel trailer or a yard of dirt no sweat.


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    End of day, for what you outlined, I'd go with the Ford. Good luck!
     
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    The correct answer is a GMC or Chevy. But of the 2 options you gave, Ford all the way.
    Unless you like headaches and auto repairs.
     
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    I’ve owned five fords and three dodges. The dodges were fine, but always felt cheap. I’ve loved every one of my fords: two expeditions, two f150s and an escort. Even the escort was awesome.
     
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