explain the Clapton thing

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  1. RLee77

    RLee77 Friend of Leo's

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    I agree. His guitar work on that song is classy, tasteful, and exactly what the song called for. Also, I think if one started to copy his phrasing on that song, you'd quickly discover that it might sound easy, but in execution it's not... like the syncopated offbeat phrasing. It's the little details that matter. Not the notes, but the polished technique.
     
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  2. lammie200

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    In his early days Clapton had a lot of competition, and I think that he recognized it. Somewhere along the line he stopped trying to set himself out from that crowd and fell into what he either wanted to do, or was likely convinced to do by recording execs. Some of it is good, but a lot of it is uninspiring IMHO.
     
  3. Mike Eskimo

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    Any one where he doesn't sing "she don't lie...that dirty cocaine"

    Yeah, we get it Eric - coke is bad...:rolleyes:
     
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    This is an interesting video. His approach on an SG is a good example of his ability.



    Have You Heard from the Bluesbreakers album made my ears perk up. The "Clapton is God" came about during the LSD days.
     
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    Nope- back in the Bluesbreaker days, a year or two before the LSD days!
     
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    I stand corrected!
     
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    The one with the shortest solo.
     
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    I'm sure it's difficult and full of graceful phrasing. It just goes on way too long.
     
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    JJ wrote it...:rolleyes:

     
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    Always struck me as ironic that she actually lies like a rug.
     
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    Watching the 2010 Crossroads. Clapton and Winwood doing Voodoo Chile and Mr Fantasy. It's deplorable how he plays those dreadful pentatonic scales up down the neck like that. Terrible, just terrible. I might be able to last what? 3 more hours listening to this? Tops. He really brings nothing to the table at all. Ok 4 hours, but that's it.
     
  12. PastorJay

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    I agree. After listening to Clapton for more than 4 of 5 hours, I have to listen to something else.

    Seriously, the thing that's amazing is that after 50 years, he's gone through so many different phases and styles. ON some level it's almost all blues. But there's so much variation you could listen for hours.
     
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    I don't get the whole rock & blues guitar thing; very few rock & blues players have impressed me. I think there are so many of them because these genres are the easiest to play & sound halfway decent at. Just a bunch of "pentatonic pushers" wanking away at a Strat or Paul. I have always been more into world class "over-the-top" guitar players, such as:

    Danny Gatton
    Roy Buchanan
    Scotty Anderson
    Tommy Emmanuel
    Guthrie Trapp
    Shawn Lane
    Brent Mason
    And yes; Greg Koch

    You wanna impress me, you better play like Scotty Anderson or Tommy Emmanuel, who I consider to be the 2 best guitarists alive today.
     
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    Listen to THIS guy then get back to me about Clapton.
     
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    Many, including myself, often take the man for granted...yes, sometimes he mails it in, with too safe & clean solos, or overly commercial projects & bands that don't inspire, BUT then there's the undisputable resume, body of work & those, he's influenced. If you don't get him after reading this article, it's on you!

    https://www.rockhall.com/inductees/eric-clapton
     
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    Blues is the easiest music to play and the hardest to play right. The phrasing and nuances are very tricky. But I'm a bit baffled that you're a Roy Buchanan fan and don't feel like you get blues. If anyone ever played the blues it was that guy.
     
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    lol

    clearly, you need a temple in which guitarists can submit their burnt offerings!

    Emmanuel has never moved me emotionally, he has no historical interest or significance. Kurt Cobain is orders of magnitude more artistic and consequential.

    Scotty is an amazing guitarist, a Master of technique, harmony, and cleverness. As Pat Metheny is a great student of jazz guitar, probably with George Benson the greatest alive today, Scotty is a great student of the tele tradition, and probably the greatest alive today.

    And yet Clapton has been more consequential than all of them. Right passion, right place, right time.
     
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    Hey, yes I know this is a zombie thread. But I really don't give a ...

    Yeah, the blues might be easy to play, but they are darn hard to play really good.
    I've been a Clapton fan for decades. Now understand, I rarely like his , or anyone elses studio work. Give me the live stuff.. Studio music just ain't got no soul. jmo.
    Was different back in the day, like the 60's and such, they still all just got in there together and went after it then.
    Listen to something like the orginal Derick & the Dominoes , try maybe Key to the Highway off that. That is some smokin hot electric blues guitar Eric & Duane have going there. Maybe some of the best ever. again jmo.
    The guy's an all pro.



    Hey I like the sound of that tele steve is playing in this vid.
     
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    I totally agree. I don't listen to much Clapton beyond Cream and Derek and the Dominoes. The D&D live stuff is great. Take this classic blues song, for example. What's wrong with it? Nothing!



    And this even more classic one:



    And then if you want to get into smokin' hot... Ain't nobody goin' ta tell me that he cain't play no gitar afta this... The solo that starts at 3:25 is a face-melter.

     
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    To the OPs' original question: I completely understand the question of why people hold Clapton in such high regard. For me, it was why listen to Clapton when you could listen to Hendrix? When I was a kid, I heard the solo on Crossroads, and said well, OK, that is pretty good. But he does not shred, he does not tap, there are no tricks. No country Telecaster ear twisters. Then I learned this solo note for note, and I saw the light. The guy just speaks. It is like a person talking to you that has something interesting to say. When you learn his solos, and they are one of the best teaching tools out there, you realize that he is truly gifted. I thought this was easy until I tried to do it. His licks are not the most comfortable licks to play. This one has Jimmy Page on rhythm when Clapton was about 19. And I do believe that Clapton is playing the Beano Les Paul here:

     
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