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Experience with Sweetwater Limited Edition Princeton

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Cornelius TX, Apr 18, 2021.

  1. Cornelius TX

    Cornelius TX TDPRI Member

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    Hello!

    I am considering this amp based on the rave reviews. One question for those who have it: Can it handle medium-volume outdoor gigs without a mic? Mainly clean classic country.

    Read lots online, but wanted y’all’s thoughts on this specific version of the amp and this context for it.

    Thanks!
     
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    No.
     
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    Not without a mic, no.
     
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    50 to 100 watts outdoors minimum IMO with no mic and you still going to get mud 3 rows out.

    Outdoors is tuff to deal with low wattage amps and not sending them thru the PA.

    Fender doesnt have many options for direct out if any.
     
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    But perfect for small indoor venues, local bars etc
     
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    Outdoor gigs require lots of power, either a big amp or a mic into a PA. I prefer the mic into the PA as a big, powerful amp is still very directional and doesn’t spread the sound as well as a multi speaker PA setup.
     
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    With PA support, it's a fine amp. Marty Stuart and Kenny Vaughn often use Princetons onstage.
     
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    I wouldn't think it could handle it without a mic. if you have a drummer.
    I have used my BJ on gigs without a mic nut I don't play loud anymore.
    Also I have used 5W amps on gigs .... they work fine but must require a mic.
    IMHO if you are playing in a typical rock band with out stage mics you need 30W min. 50W if you play clean.
     
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    I used one on a couple of gigs. The amp sounds great, but I was always looking for the BIGGER button. I'm a 6L6 guy though, so there you go. Nice amp, for what it is.
     
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    No, a Princeton Reverb is a great amp, but just doesn't have enough power to use at outdoor gigs for clean country. Get a Twin!
     
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    Outdoor gigs , clean country probably not without a mic or you will need to crank your song to get decent volume.

    Indoor gigs probably works wells, depend of your band volume... it could be a solution, but i suggest in order to run low clean volumes, probably a mic.

    Princeton + 12" to me, sounds great.

    I prefer a small amp + mic than a huge amp, since the second one its not usable at home / studio.
     
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    I have that amp and love it after a speaker swap. I wouldn't consider the C-Rex a country flavored speaker. A high wattage, high db speaker would be better suited for the headroom you want for country. For your application, I would think the Tonemaster Twin Reverb would be perfect.
     
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    What kind of gig/stage. Most outside stage gigs will have a back line already miked or swap in yours. For other outside stuff maybe bigger if you are not miking guitars or line in basses. Imho
     
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    Thanks for the great input!
     
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    Are you against a microphone?
    No need to be.
    If y’all are playing outside will there be singing? Will the singer have a microphone?
    Get a Princeton.
    They are excellent amps.
    Buy a Shure SM-57, pick a channel on the PA.
    Enjoy your new amp.
     
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    I am trying to envision a medium volume, un-mic’d, outdoor stage. But I can’t. I guess it’s all about the space and direction you’re trying to fill. I have played quiet outdoor shows with an unmic’d PR. But always special purpose. Very small farmers market on typical urban home sized plot with everyone in front of stage. That kinda thing. But I was ok with breakup. Air swallows sound. Always mic outside.
     
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    The T Rex is 101.8 db at 1 watt. I would call that a high db speaker.
     
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    I have one. I would, in general, say no. Not outside, with clean headroom, without being mic'ed up.

    I will also add that I wasn't crazy about the speaker. Love the tweed though, so I switched the speaker. Others will disagree but I think the Cannabis Rex is too warm for the Princeton. At least for what I expect a Princeton to sound like.

    It is a great amp though.

    For your application, a DR, or Pro, or Vibrolux would get you farther.
     
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    Outdoor gig can mean anything. If you’re playing in a courtyard in between two buildings for 20 people you might be ok. If you’re playing in a large open field or parking lot for hundreds of people you’ll need more power.
     
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    hmmm: Vaughn occasionally, (seems to be a deluxe more often than not), Stuart's almost always a twin.
     
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