Expensive guitars make you a better guitarist, says Gibson.

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  1. JL_LI

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    A decent guitar that you like and an excellent setup, either professionally done or done yourself if you know how are all you need. All the rest is icing on the cake. But... there's a thread running now about aesthetics and there are a few valid points posted there. For me, a high gloss finish is important. I won't play it if I can't look at it... so I guess the icing is as important on a guitar as on your birthday cake. ;)
     
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  2. kennl

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    Sure
    Gibson’s scenario:
    Buy a high end guitar
    Incur huge amount of debt
    Determine that more gigs will offset debt
    Find out that somebody with better chops is getting those gigs
    Work hard and improve your playing
    Gig more make $$$$$
    Pay off guitar

    Reality:
    Practice
    Play incessantly with better musicians
    Become a better guitarist
     
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    I remember the same being true with girls, when I was single.
     
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  4. StrangerNY

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    I can agree with the article, in the respect that if you're an aspiring guitarist that is attempting things on a cheap or poorly set up guitar, those things you're trying to do will be more difficult. To a point, that might help - because if you can accomplish what you're trying to play on a cheap or poorly set up guitar it'll will make you a better player by fighting through the shortcomings of the instrument.

    But I'll say that when I made the step to higher-end instruments, they made what I was trying to play easier.

    As for aesthetics - my #1 is a Danocaster that looks like it was dropped from the back of a truck numerous times. But I've had very few instruments that are as easy to play, aesthetics notwithstanding.

    - D
     
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    Those guys are fullada sof'n stinky.
     
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    I firmly believe the right axe and the right tone make you a better player...but it has nothing to do with expense. It's true for me anyway and cheap doesn't mean bad anymore.
     
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    Here is my take:

    You start with an inexpensive guitar that is a little harder to play. You have put in the work, fighting that guitar to make it play the way you want it to.

    If after all this you buy a more expensive guitar that with better fretwork, etc, then Yes it will be easier and more pleasnt to play and you will almost instantly become a better player - but it was the first guitar that made you the better player - the second just allowed you to use your skill more efficiently.

    I always recommend people start with a beginner guitar. $100 is a cheap investment. If you never learn to play it, then you aren't out much and you can sell it later and you're only out $50 or so.

    If start out with a $500 guitar, you won't appreciate it as much if you skipped the $100 guitar. If you never play it that starts to look like a pile of cash sitting there in the corner. You'll loose a few hundred dollars in the deal, too.

    So Gibson, I might argue that inexpensive guitars make you a better guitarist!
     
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    Last time I was over at the golf course that is close to our house, a fellow was showing off his golf clubs that he had gone on a trip to have fitted and tested to fit him. He paid six thousand dollars for the fitting and the clubs, he followed that up with a thousand dollar hand made putter. His final statement was "I still can't play golf very well."
     
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    I'd take a new LTD EC-1000 w/ Duncans made in Korea or Indonesia over any new Gibson Les Paul I've played in the last 15 years and save $500-$1500.
     
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    Yeah, and for just a little additional panache, he did it left handed.
     
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    This is a better-worded version of what I was trying to say. :)

    - D
     
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    Let's see here. You build expensive guitars, so you recommend people who play guitars buy expensive guitars. Hmm, that somehow seems to make some sense.
     
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    There was a nice original '59 at Rudy's around that time. They used to go out the door for +/- $3000.

    Betcha wish you bought that one.

    :D :D :D

    For comparison I could have bought a nice used '69- '70 Z-28 for three grand back then.
     
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    I wholeheartedly agree with Gibson. That's why I dumped those crummy Les Paul reissues and bought an Alembic. ;)
     
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    Playing makes you a better player ;)
     
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    Oh, I get it. But by reading the title of the thread, I thought to myself, "Wow, Gibson ACTUALLY said that" as the title of the thread suggests ("Expensive guitars make you a better guitarist, says Gibson"). A sarcastic and facetious remark, sure; but one that is also blatantly incorrect and petty IMO.
     
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    I agree that better instruments can make better musicians, to what extent isn't measurable and of course it's not 100% universal. My experience was, as I upgraded guitars it grew my love for the instrument because it became even more fun to do.
    I played ALOT on my crap guitars, but playing better guitars was more fun,,,I think everyone can agree with that.

    So,,,I practiced more and was more confident, etc.. Yes, it's your personal work that grows skills, but a better tool is a better tool.

    We've upgraded our daughter to a third different piano. The 'latest one plays better and allows her to be more expressive, easier, than the previous pianos. She plays for hours a day.

    The article says "expensive, pro level instrument...." They could have easily left the word Expensive out and made the same point.
     
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    I have an expensive Gibson SG. (intonation issues abound).

    But my current favorite guitar is my Epiphone Dot Studio (335?). $250.00. --- before NEW pickups. Great intonation and tone.
     
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  20. FredDairy

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    I will never buy another Gibson.
    I sold all my Custom Shop Pauls pretty much for what I paid for them and had my deceased father not bought me the Les Paul Studio I probably would have gotten rid of that too.
    On top of not being a Gibson guy. I can't stand what that brand has turned into.
     
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