Ok so besides Gibson, Martian, Fender, Rickenbacker, Guild, and Gretsch every other brand in the 50's 60's and 70's was a POS? I do not believe that. So Kay, Silvertone, Harmony, Hagstrom, Kent, Crucianelli, Vox, Supro, Teisco, and all the others was not capable of making any great guitars? Or really good playable ones? Really. Kay had pro models. Barney Kessel models. Silvertone had great semi hollows and Roy Smeck guitars. Kent had pro models. Supro as well. You mean even though the Kay factory had been around for years. Elvis first guitar at 12 was a Kay guitar. They never not onced produced a good guitar or a great guitar? Supro never did either? Eko either? So the guitar builders never learned to build a guitar. Even though they worked and built them for years? Electric guitars was new in the 1950's. Yes they had been a few electrics before that. But most started building electrics in the 1950's. I love Burns Strat styles. Elvis owned one. Wem guitars and other experminted with switching, bodies, wood, pickups, and other things. Every company did that. Gibson gave Harmony some pickups. But all the off brands was a POS? No I do not believe that. So Harmony sold more acoustics than anyone in the 30's and 40's. Why? Cheap price. But never learned to make a great guitar? Gibson no longer makes amplifiers. Was thay a POS? When people back then wanted to play they bought what they could afford. Or their family bought them. They will say all I wanted was Gibson and Fender. How did you know of those 2 brands and what made them good enough for you and was the measuring stick you judged all guitars by? I knew nothing about guitars when I got my first electric guitar 1983. Most got a guitar paid on time from Sears. So how did you know gibson amps was garbage if you could not afford one? Who told you your guitar was a POS compaired to the Gibson, Fender, and other brands? Did you learn it on you own? Or did you have a friend that raged you butt every day. Telling you his guitar was much better than yours. To you finnaly begged for a better guitar. BB King said guitar players wanted to be like him. And the others as well. Elvis, Buddy Holly, Beatles etcc.. Electric guitar sells went through the roof. Japan flooded the market with cheap guitars. In America too. Kay and Harmony produced expensive and cheap American models. But had a stigma as being junk. So everyone sold a guitar Deca records. Deca guitar. RCA records. RCA electric guitars 2 colors. England had Eko, Crucianelli, Vox, Burns and others. Burns was great quality. still is today with the reissues. But some say they only played them untill Gibson and Fender was sold over there. And they hated all the brands but had to play them untill they got the brands they wanted. So Paul Mccartney did not want the Hofner even though he loved it and picked it out his self? So is it that guitar players make stuff up in their heads and say the off brands never produced not one good guitar? Or they did make some great models? Or every brand produced a bad guitar every fourth one? I read at TGP about fret boards falling off. Quality issues from the Gibson, and Fenders too. So Fender got it right the first time. No quality issues at all. And companys that been around for years and the new ones as well never learned to make a great guitar. They were really that stupid. Or guitar players hated those brands and told the truth on some models. But made up most of the quality issues? Did some one bugg you so bad. Saying your brand was junk and you bought or begged for another. If you knew nothing about guitars how could you hold the guitar and say and know the neck, pickups, wood, electronics was a POS and junk? did you get laughed at when you tried the guitar out at the store? What gives? You mean all the off brands or new companys that was cheaper than a Gibson and Fender was junk. Did not Leo Fender learn as he went along making guitars? He could not play much either. Why could not the other workers that worked at those other factories learn to make a guitar. You mean for years they made guitars and never got any better? What am I missing here. Explain it to me? I'm confused? Either guitar players lied because they hated those brands? Or every other one was bad. But like Harmony that was 40 years old in the 50's never leaned to produce one guitar that did not have quality issues? I do not get it? Help me to understand it all?