Yet the market for Chinese fake antiques is strong due to the age of most of that stuff. Like late '70s Fender guitars being lumped into the vintage market, lots of Victorian era repro Chinese fakery is desirable and actually valuable. Same with stuff like fake Windsor chairs and fake Stickley oak furniture. Old good fakes sell for a lot of money, no dishonesty required. To my thinking, used selling prices above the cost of a new import repro is the basics of collector value. Some fake Strad violins are worth $X000's because they were fine instruments 100 years ago when factory made in Germany meant a bunch of good fiddle makers in the same room, but with no particular family name to sell under. For that matter, in D'Angelico's shop, the apprentice/ workers sometimes were allowed to finish a reject from a run and sell them without the D'A name. Next came his workers going out on their own like D'Aquisto, who later became a big name after being a nobody. As the years go by a lot becomes valuable because it was formerly viewed as "worthless", so nobody saved the stuff. Depression glass/ milk glass/ Avon bottles/ old milk bottles etc. Never unwrapped toys seems big in the speculation game, and I ripped apart lots of now collectible mechanical robot toys circa 1964. Even unwrapped and rusty is valuable, which collectors now sort of fake valuate, speculating on one to five year old toys by selling them to each other as if the stuff had actual value. Some goes up and some goes down. I got stuck selling a Hummel figurine collection for another owner; this was well established collector product with years of print documentation and easily traced production dates etc. Really hard to sell and worth far less than book value, once the NYC vicinity collectors were polled and responded.