es 335 clones w/ same specs?

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by Toshiro, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. Toshiro

    Toshiro TDPRI Member

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    I know there are a crap ton of posts asking for es335 alternatives, and I hate to create another one that appears similar. However I must ask, since this is probably the best and most active guitar forum I've seen, what people here think about guitars like Washburn hb35 and hamer echotones in terms of similarities to a es-335. I could definitely in theory save up for say a used es 333, but I'm in college so.....that might take forever. The main reason I feel the need to ask is because besides the ibanez as73 I believe, I haven't found a budget semi-hollow with the same woods w/ mahogany necks. Not sure if it changes much but any opinions are appreciated. Not really searching for the cheapest way out. Just wondering if a small change like that might affect a lot.
     
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    What's wrong with the Epi's that are available as an alternative? These can be purchased relatively cheaply new and even cheaper used. I'm talking Dot, Sheraton and even Casino. That Lennon Casino is really nice and cheap. How much are you looking to spend?
     
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    I was also considering those, but was just wondering moreso about people with experience with those since they are slightly harder to come by to play in person. Definitely shall take your words of wisdom and try those, but I have heard some good things about the washburns especially so I was wondering if people had them and how they thought they might compare.
     
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    I have a nice Epi Dot that's been fitted with Stew-Mac pick-ups and a coil tap. Super guitar! Also have a Korean Epi Sheraton fitted with Gibson PAF's; another great guitar!

    Also have a Sheraton Elitist with the mini-humbuckers. Damn fine guitar. But now we're encroaching on P-90's.

    Quality wise, the Korean Sheraton finish is superb. The Elitist is like glass smooth. The Dot is not finished as meticulously as the Elitist but the neck is really where the attention went.

    For pure 335 tone, the Korean is closest. The Dot is so versatile with the Stew Mac pups and coil tap that you could really play it anywhere and fit well. The Elitist will probably never leave the house... it's really close to a musical art guitar.

    WISH I had a Gibson ES-335! Really wish I had the ES-339!

    Find a nice Epi Sheraton. I like the Korean made models.

    Save up for a Gibson.
     
  5. Toshiro

    Toshiro TDPRI Member

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    Haha thanks for the advice. I'll keep an eye out for used dots....they seem to sell pretty cheap.
     
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    They may not be easy to get in the US, but the Japanese Tokais are streets ahead of anything from Epiphone - and streets ahead of any of the Korean or Chinese Tokais too! I seriously wouldn't swap mine for a Gibson. Mine is a 2007 ES130 - modelled on a '58 or '59 dot neck 335 - surely the most attractive 335 ever made?

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    Heritage 535 is going to be the closest. Made by hand to the old Gibson specs, in the old Gibson factory, with the odd old Gibson employee still wandering around (there used to be more ex-employees there, but...aging and all....).

    EDIT: I should say: they're not cheap....but they're not absurd either. A good used one will go from $1,200 - $1,500.
     
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    Sometime in the recent past, Epi switched the standard DOTs to use a mahogany neck instead of maple. FWIW, I've played several of the new Chinese DOTs and they were sweet guitars.

    Had a Washburn HB32 for a time. It, too, was a very nice guitar but I could tell no discernible difference in quality between it and the Korean maple-necked DOT I had at the time. In stock form both guitars played and sounded much the same. Both improved markedly in sound with upgraded pickups.

    I actually prefer the stock Chinese DOTs now over either.
     
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    My 2004 Chinese Epi Dot has neck with grain very similar to mahogany. I never see maple neck like that.
     
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    Jack Knife Friend of Leo's

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    Yes, I noticed it a couple of years ago when I was looking at a natural finish DOT. Obviously a mahogany neck, but Epi's website still listed it as maple at the time. The website is updated now but I know it lagged behind the real spec for several years.
     
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    I'm a big fan of the Yamaha and Ibanez Japanese made 335's. They have a build quality that is nothing less than obsessive. Ibanez offers the JSM100 which is a reissue of the "Schofield" AS100. If you can get your hands on a decent example of any of the 80's Ibanez AM or AS series you'll have a lifetime keeper.

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    Definitely was not aware about the new dots neck change. I'll have to check that out. Thanks for the opinions.
     
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    If I save up to the 1 grand range, anybody have any opinions of eastmans? Heard good things about them, but haven't seen many and they are pretty decently priced...
     
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    You may be able to find a used Gibson 333 for around a grand. Basically a stripped down 335.
     
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    Those Tokais look nice, as do the older Ibanez. If you can't find one and are looking for new, check out the Agile line. They are pretty good Gibson-like guitars and built/play well, with good pricing. http://www.rondomusic.com/
     
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    Absolutely. I've never played one of their 335 style guitars but I've got a AL3100 LP style and it's super. The pricing is really great.
     
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    Definately try a Washburn HB35 before you make a final decision. Sam Ash should have them. Great quality, tone and feel and the price is great for a guitar this good.
     

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    This guy does a great demo of the HB35. he does Alvin Lees going home and just kills!
     
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    Just tried out a AS73 today and probably gonna go with that one. Playing one definitely reinforced what many people had said about them and how they were definitely solid. Thanks for all the help.
     
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    Look for a Hohner Professional SE335 from the early 90's. You won't find a better 335 model other than a Gibby imho. thanks
     
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