Rick Beato interviewing Eric Johnson. Interesting conversation, and not the typical Eric interview focused on guitars and gear. My favorite section starts around 20 minutes, when they get into the "function of pop music". Eric has some fascinating thoughts on current vs. older pop music, and he's not as critical as I thought he might be. Not too much on "strange" obsessions.....like "dirty AC" current. I met Eric at a guitar show 20+ years ago, and he was gracious and approachable, and his legendary shyness isn't obvious here, either.