Epiphone Casino into cranked late 60s Vox AC30TB - demo

rze99

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Epiphone Casino into cranked late 60s Vox AC30TB. The Casino is Korean but with Gibson Custom Shop pickups fitted. The amp is a late 60s Vox AC30 Top Boost with Celestion Greenback speakers. The channels are jumped and both are used. The guitar is boosted via Drybell Unit67 to drive the amp front end. The demo is designed to get a Paperback Writer type tone. The demo section is part of an original song composition by me.

 

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Nice work.

It would be cool to hear that amp with some Celestion Blues.

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Sounds really good and you definitely nailed that tone. I've had a 60's Gibson 330, a '70s MIJ Epi similarly equipped, and I'm even running soap bars in the rhythm position of both of the Epiphone 335 style guitars I have now, even though they came with HB's. Oh I just remembered I had a 59-60 Gibson 125 also with p90's.... It's a really nice marriage, and seems to be a pretty easy pickup to reproduce. Just a wide Stratocaster type pickup with a metal base, and threaded pole pieces. Easier to produce than a humbucking with the extra coil and different pole pieces and wooden spacer etc. I'm just thinking out loud and hoping somebody makes the one gauge difference I think between a mediocre or better pick up, and puts out a moderately priced modern choice. 120 bucks for a p90 versus 70 or 80 for a paf copy like a 59 Seymour? I'm going by a somewhat shaky memory I could definitely be off. Sorry I went off on a tangent. That was a really nice clip and looking forward to more if you got them, or the whole tune.
 

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Sounds really good and you definitely nailed that tone. I've had a 60's Gibson 330, a '70s MIJ Epi similarly equipped, and I'm even running soap bars in the rhythm position of both of the Epiphone 335 style guitars I have now, even though they came with HB's. Oh I just remembered I had a 59-60 Gibson 125 also with p90's.... It's a really nice marriage, and seems to be a pretty easy pickup to reproduce. Just a wide Stratocaster type pickup with a metal base, and threaded pole pieces. Easier to produce than a humbucking with the extra coil and different pole pieces and wooden spacer etc. I'm just thinking out loud and hoping somebody makes the one gauge difference I think between a mediocre or better pick up, and puts out a moderately priced modern choice. 120 bucks for a p90 versus 70 or 80 for a paf copy like a 59 Seymour? I'm going by a somewhat shaky memory I could definitely be off. Sorry I went off on a tangent. That was a really nice clip and looking forward to more if you got them, or the whole tune.

Cheers. P90s on Gibsons are cool. I have indulged myself.

I enjoyed getting close to that tone. Just a bit of fun. There's a whole track that's just a segment.

I did a recording of a couple of takes of takes on Paperback Writer at the same time, but...well, it's best to avoid the rights lawyers so I won't post those, just for my own enjoyment.
 

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Cheers. P90s on Gibsons are cool. I have indulged myself.

I enjoyed getting close to that tone. Just a bit of fun. There's a whole track that's just a segment.

I did a recording of a couple of takes of takes on Paperback Writer at the same time, but...well, it's best to avoid the rights lawyers so I won't post those, just for my own enjoyment.
Maybe call it "newspaper typesetter"
 

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Epiphone Casino into cranked late 60s Vox AC30TB. The Casino is Korean but with Gibson Custom Shop pickups fitted. The amp is a late 60s Vox AC30 Top Boost with Celestion Greenback speakers. The channels are jumped and both are used. The guitar is boosted via Drybell Unit67 to drive the amp front end. The demo is designed to get a Paperback Writer type tone. The demo section is part of an original song composition by me.


You nailed it!
 

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With eyes closed, it sounds rather spectacular .....I listened again & again to try & figure out how many instruments or takes are layered on with the sound?

Surprised with the [handwired] AC30 +TB cranked up, there wasn't more hiss

Irrespective of the format in the supply of a musical piece, if the listener closes their eyes, the mind will improve spartial presence of the individual instruments location in the sound stage

Have just listened to the soundclip again twice [with eyes closed], I think I can visualise 3 instruments......

Could this be the case? ...would be interested in the answer

Derek
 
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rze99

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With eyes closed, it sounds rather spectacular .....I listened again & again to try & figure out how many instruments or takes are layered on with the sound?

Surprised with the [handwired] AC30 +TB cranked up, there wasn't more hiss

Irrespective of the format in the supply of a musical piece, if the listener closes their eyes, the mind will improve spartial presence of the individual instruments location in the sound stage

Have just listened to the soundclip again twice [with eyes closed], I think I can visualise 3 instruments......

Could this be the case? ...would be interested in the answer

Derek

Thanks @derekwarner

Yep. Aside from bass and drums, you are correct, three tracks of Casino all exactly the same tone settings recorded at the same time.

Panned left is "riff"
right is "ching" (as I called them).
About 16 seconds in there is a third which is central and is simply a loose chug on the bottom three strings of barred G timed to come in when the bass climbs to a higher G note designed to be McCartney style. Also Boss TR2 trem.

There is some DAW compressor on to blend the tracks in with bass and drums and a very short warm room ambience. The "ching" has a small amount of DAW chorus.
The EQ of the guitars is tweaked two with a raised upper mid mainly.

There's really no hiss from the amp. It's astonishingly quiet so wonderful to record with. In any case that's what gates are for if there were. My Marshall is the same, very very quiet. My DRRI has much more hiss going on. I just gate it.

EDIT: Also the Vox is attenuated using my Hotplate.... otherwise I'd be deaf as a post!
 
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