Epiphone “Bully” SG Mystery?

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  1. Pasta Player

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    Okay, whatzit?

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    Looks like an Epiphone “Bully” SG but the neck pup is different and the headstock is odd (at least the “Gibson” and the logo). If the neck’s good and it plays well, might pull the trigger and change the pups out later.

    Just might squelch the Gibson SG GAS enough for me? (I’ll see it tomorrow.)
     
  2. gusfinley

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    Does this have a bolt-on neck?

    The headstock and the truss rod cover scream Epiphone - and not an expensive one.

    This looks like it started as a Epiphone SG Special, with added pickups, upgraded knobs (maybe pots) and headstock rebranding.

    http://www.epiphone.com/Products/SG/SG-Special.aspx

    It certainly doesn't look to have the Bully SG neck based on the location of the truss rod screws and the top curve of headstock.

    Do you know the brand of the pickups? The mini-bucker ( if that's what it is) in the neck looks cool and I do like P-94 style pickups.

    I certainly wouldn't pay a Gibson price for it!!
     
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    Thanks. Hadn’t considered it being an Epi SG Special but now… most likely. Have asked for more pics of neck, etcetera. Seller’s a bit “foggy” about what the pups are actually - even as he says he’s a “luthier”. But as the price is very low (definitely and thankfully not a Gibson price!) it might be worth a shot.

    Appreciate the link & info. TYVM
     
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    The bridge pickup looks identical to the 'P90 in a humbucker size case' I have on my Strat. £9.99 from TomTop.
     
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    Ditto, I have an identical looking humbucker sized p90 in my telecaster. Two pickups for $20.
     
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    Not a bully, likely an SG special.


    Bully headstock:


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    I doubt that bridge pickup is original even if it really is a Gibson. Although the headstock looks like an Epiphone and I doubt it's legit.

    Here, same truss rod cover even:
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    Gibson uses two screws in the truss rod cover, three screws is always sign of import cover.
    Headstock shape is definitely Epiphone.
    Gibson logo is a transfer, poorly applied too, look how asymmetrical it is.
     
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    Well, after additional questions posed via text... no response from seller (all day). If I hear nothing before tomorrow morning... it'll be some other inexpensive SG eventually. Thanks for the input everybody.;)
     
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    What is an epiphone bully sg ? And what is special about it ?
    I can’t really find any info on them
     
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    If the seller is a "luthier" maybe he's the one who put a "Gibson" headstock overlay on a cheap Epiphone?
     
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    Is that the one up on FB Marketplace in the KC area? It's definitely an Epi, I think it even said so in the description. If I remember correctly, it's only $150, so definitely not a Gibson.
     
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    Looks like a Epi 310 bottom rung special dressed up like a Chibsun.

    I try not to buy things that take up space.
     
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    He must have realized that you got wise to him..... If he's advertising it as a Gibson - he's flat-out lying!
     
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    Don't really know what's so special about them other than they were only made for two years (and maybe had different pups than a regular Epi SG Special).

    I've got a Epi LP Jr. (that's very similar to the SG Special) that I drag around to test amps & pedals with but beyond that, it seldom ever gets played. I might have pulled the trigger on a Bully... but not on a Special.
     
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    Are the bullies higher quality from that time period or is it personal preference I’m just trying to understand if they are better or not or why you would rather have one than the sg special

    Not trying to bother you just curious about these epi’s
     
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    No bother. Very limited info here but yes, think I'd rather have a Bully for possible "collect-ability" and the "maybe" better pick-ups than the SG Special... but I could be absolutely "all wrong" there. Someone else is probably much better qualified to answer your questions.

    With that Gibson headstock logo on the one that I was considering, I thought it possible that a "luthier" may have added a true Gibson neck (instead of just a decal).
    "Lipstick on a pig"?
     
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    A "true" Gibson neck is a glued-in (set) neck. I am not aware of any Les Paul Style "true Gibson" bolt-on necks.

    My Les Paul style "beater" guitars have bolt on neck just in case the kids knock them over and bust them. I leave them out on a stand as my go-to practice guitars ( one for E, one for E flat) . If the kids break a neck I replace it with a used $50 guitar and not feel I need to shun them for a while!
     
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    They are inexpensive beginner guitars.
     
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    Ahh... "The more you know". (Und now we know.);)
    Thanks er'body.
     
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