Electrosocket screw alignment

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  1. Cicada Nation

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    Hi. I installed an electrosocket on my tele a while back.

    Even though I tried to be careful and precise about the screw holes, it looked a little lopsided to me- not the cup itself, the screw locations just didn’t look quite parallel to the top of the guitar. Laying it flat and looking at it from the side, the screws were more like 10 and 4 o’ clock instead of 9 and 3.

    It bugged me, but the holes had been made, so I rotated it 90 degrees and did it again at 12 and 6. Now it looks straight, but I’m wondering why no one does this.

    I googled and found one article where someone claims “many say” it’s better to do it along the length of the guitar instead of the depth. The article did not say why many say this.

    The thing works fine, by the way, so is it no big deal? Is there any reason I should try to redo it again the way it is usually done? Thanks.
     
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    Along as the screws tighten up and hold it securely, it doesn't matter how they are aligned.
     
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    Nice try, Big Brother.
    I have two, and they're both installed parallel to the length of the guitar. That just makes more sense to me. There's more wood in that direction. Not that you're driving long screws into the thing, but still.
     
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    Guess I'm with Jackal on this one. A slight cosmetic that probably, except you, might notice.
     
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    Spooky!

    I looked at this issue yesterday and cheekily turned my electrosocket through 90-degrees and stared; but then I returned it to it's intended position.

    If you hear any big changes in tone and/or sustain let us know, but vertically or horizontally, if it works, it works. :D
     
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    I've got one that is how it should be, 3 and 9, and 2 that are 6 and 12. The reason I did them like that, was that on both occasions the wood on both sides wouldn't hold the screws well, so I refilled them with toothpicks, and used my bradawl at the positions I mentioned.
    If you're not using long screws, then it won't make any difference, as long as you haven't pierced the finish. It's certainly nothing to worry about. Enjoy your guitar, and happy playing now that you don't have to worry about the jack socket falling out.
     
  7. Tuxedo Poly

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    Fender are using them on the American Ultra and Britt Daniels.

    This is from the Ultra service manual which suggests horizontal screw positioning is their choice.

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    this is how I set mine.... fits every plug, leaving some threads exposed.......

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    Don’t forget to align the slots in the screw heads for the final refinement of appearance.
     
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    Shame they don't use it on all models. The original was a flawed concept, why continue with it.
     
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    I did the same thing, now it works with right angle jacks flawlessly.
     
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    Electrosocket is my go-to for eack of my builds. It really does not matter how it is aligned, however, mine are oriented so the screws are closest to the front & back.
     
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    Thanks for the feedback, everyone.
    I had a few minutes today so I decided to see if plugging the 10 and 4 holes and trying 9 and 3 again would work and it did.
    Crisis averted!
     
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    I like my threads to be completely counter-sunk. I had no idea that some people would use an elektrosocket jack and still leave threads exposed... Until I saw your post! o_O;)
     
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    I leave threads exposed too. The whole reason I did the electrosocket was because I wanted to use my right angle plugs.
     
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    Never even thought about that. I always thought that it would be the same as a regular cup jack. Learned something new today at TDPRI! :cool:
     
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    Gosh, I don’t know if I’ve ever paid attention to where the screws are… I’m gonna have to check that out in the morning!
     
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    actually Neutrik switching L plugs work fine in a stock Tele jack cup....

    I use electro sockets because they are easier to install.;)

    neutrik L plug.jpg
     
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    My threads are all exposed, but that's because I remove the retainer inside.
     
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    It’s funny, I’ve always preferred and used electrosockets for years. But just recently I’ve been working on some vintage relics and have gone back to using the cups. Maybe I’m just trying to justify the cost of the Stew Mac tool for fitting them?
     
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