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Mr. Lumbergh

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I need a hand tracking down the crimp pins in a quick-disconnect in a wiring harness. Can someone help me identify the crimp connector type shown in the photo? It's been removed from a two-wire clip as shown in the second photo. They aren't "dupont" connectors, which rely on a tab in the plastic housing to prevent backing out when inserted and are longer than these, they have a small tab on the crimp pin itself that pops up into a slot on the clip when inserted. None of my friendly neighborhood electronics stores with a DIY section have these, just the dupont connectors, and places online such as Mouser have thousands of different connectors so I'm looking for a needle in a haystack when it comes to narrowing down what I need. Any help is appreciated.
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Those look like Molex to me - try an auto parts store, better prices than electronics stores, and much more commonly found.
 

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If the male plugs are flat and wide they could be an adaption of a "spade lug" but not one I've seen here in OZ in about 55yrs in the electronics game. The spring clip/locking device is a good idea. Perhaps it's a an auto/motor bike adaption of the universal spade lug and socket? Some photos of them side on, with a shot looking down into the socket would be helpful.

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Question- Is the header on the right photo for the male/pins or female/socket side?

There are so many connector styles in this size range it's quite maddening. You might consider purchasing a connector kit from DigiKey or Mouser or Pololu (robotics supply company) rather than match these exactly.
 

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I did a quick scout on ebay for you and yes they look like Molex split pin connectors I went through 20 pages of molex parts ( there were a lot more) the big question is what do need the match for those pins ? or the mate connectors ? or extra pins ? check them out but it will be a little research on your part .
 

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Molex is a goog guess from experience, but in my experience this looks like and AMP connector; type used in early computer atx type interconnects. I googled amp connector pins and there is the connector shell and pins. Hope this helps
 

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One other question: It helps to know the pitch of the two pins in the photo at right, e.g. 1.25mm, 2mm, etc. If you have some calipers or a scale could you measure that? (pitch = center to center distance) Most connector families use the pitch as a key identifier.

EDIT: This is darn close, by the way... actually seems exact, but I can't figure out exactly the pitch or find other small distributors or even similar photos. It's likely a JST style two pin connector, but there are a lot of variants out there.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/QWT-1-0mm-2mm-male-female_62318758394.html

Here's the one I'm talking about, pasted below, from that page. Anyway, if you can measure the pitch it will help narrow it down. It's like a JST PH or XH style cable connector.

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Question- Is the header on the right photo for the male/pins or female/socket side?

There are so many connector styles in this size range it's quite maddening. You might consider purchasing a connector kit from DigiKey or Mouser or Pololu (robotics supply company) rather than match these exactly.
That's the male end.
I did a quick scout on ebay for you and yes they look like Molex split pin connectors I went through 20 pages of molex parts ( there were a lot more) the big question is what do need the match for those pins ? or the mate connectors ? or extra pins ? check them out but it will be a little research on your part .
Those look like Molex to me - try an auto parts store, better prices than electronics stores, and much more commonly found.
I looked at Molex and those are too large, they're the type that connects power supplies in a computer to the disk drives and fans, etc. from what I've seen.
 

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One other question: It helps to know the pitch of the two pins in the photo at right, e.g. 1.25mm, 2mm, etc. If you have some calipers or a scale could you measure that? (pitch = center to center distance) Most connector families use the pitch as a key identifier.

EDIT: This is darn close, by the way... actually seems exact, but I can't figure out exactly the pitch or find other small distributors or even similar photos. It's likely a JST style two pin connector, but there are a lot of variants out there.
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/QWT-1-0mm-2mm-male-female_62318758394.html

Here's the one I'm talking about, pasted below, from that page. Anyway, if you can measure the pitch it will help narrow it down. It's like a JST PH or XH style cable connector.

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That looks exactly right. JST is the type?
The socket is deep enough that I couldn't get the caliper in to measure the pin separation directly, but measuring between the right side of the channels where the pop-up tab engages puts them at 2.09mm. I'd say pitch is 2mm on that basis.
 

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That's the male end.


I looked at Molex and those are too large, they're the type that connects power supplies in a computer to the disk drives and fans, etc. from what I've seen.
what are you needing to do with them"? as pickup disconnects? becuse i have about 10 2 pin male and female connectors that I bought for that purose but never did use them.
 

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what are you needing to do with them"? as pickup disconnects? becuse i have about 10 2 pin male and female connectors that I bought for that purose but never did use them.
Yes. I'm rewiring a three-pickup Gretsch 5622T. There's not much room to work with in there and having those clips to completely remove the pickups before trying to fish out the harness helped a lot.
 

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JST is a generic category. Lots of manufacturers make a variety of them. JST PH is a 2mm type. It may be easier to purchase a kit and do your own rather than trying to match these exactly.
 

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Great info, thanks for your help on this everyone. I just placed an order for this kit, which is way more than I need but will get here this week.
Cool. Do you have a crimper? Makes life easier. The big wire stripper tools have some crimping areas on the jaws. The biggest expense is the crimper, actually.

Edit: Also, be sure you're getting the free-hanging male and female connector housings unless you want one side in a PCB. The 2.54mm is a good size, by the way, for 0.1 inch center holes found in breadboards and prototyping PCBs.
 

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Cool. Do you have a crimper? Makes life easier. The big wire stripper tools have some crimping areas on the jaws. The biggest expense is the crimper, actually.

Edit: Also, be sure you're getting the free-hanging male and female connector housings unless you want one side in a PCB. The 2.54mm is a good size, by the way, for 0.1 inch center holes found in breadboards and prototyping PCBs.
Yeah, I do. I have a crimper and set of dupont-style connections for pedal builds, prototype boards, etc.
 




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