Electric Guitarists. Choice History. Worked? Foolishly Traded away? Still Own to this Day?

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Most electric guitarist with a decent history behind them know the meaning of terms like "Keepers". "The One(s) that Got Away". "Never Looked Back". "Lifelong from First Picked Up". "If I could have done this over". ... The bonding or lack of is part of the player / instrument life partnerships that might cover the short span of a year or less or last a lifetime. Sometimes they lead to careers or signature tones. Other times it's more personal to the player that had to work to earn the bread to act on their own gear decisions and then bare the results of both good and bad choices during the months and years that followed. In the world of electric guitar players, the instruments, amps and effects they chose to partner with, combined with the much harder to develop skill levels achieved over time through practice, trial and error, etc. results in the cumulative present of the guitarist who's captained this process from the first day they picked up the instrument and silently said "Yes".

I do appreciate and commend you one and all for the skills you've mastered over the years. What I'd like to ask concerns the gear you've tried out over the years. The pieces you instantly recognized as keepers. The pieces you purchased, questioned, sold, and then wished you hadn't. The pieces you never questioned, never sold and still have to this day. The pieces you screwed up on and sold and then just had to repurchase at a higher price later on. The thread is about Gear. Look at your current signal chain. Guitar, Effects, (if you use them), and Amp. Any love at first sight? Relationships that have lasted forever? Found, lost reacquired partnerships? Relationships that took some time to develop? Which brand. Which Model? Which type of Gear?

For myself .....

1). My first true quality piece of gear was a Gibson SG my father purchased for me after I'd been playing guitar for 11 years. A brand new 1st release '71 / '72 SG Deluxe with a Bigsby trem / tailpiece. $499.99 including a hard shell case and full lifetime warranty. I've often thought my selling it four years later was a mistake but, in hindsight, replacing it with an Alvarez 12 string acoustic and finding my songwriting output tripling immediately was an eye opener moment. I'll be thankful forever for having been introduced to the 12 string guitar at that time.

When I sold the SG I didn't know the rarity of it's production or what was in it. It turns out dad acquired mine from a music store that had received a pre production model that Gibson had thrown everything they had into it. From mother of pearl block inlays to the original, (first version), T-Top Les Paul pickups Gibson started producing in '68. When the full production run came out maybe six months to a year later some of the special parts had been lessened or deleted so the street price could be lowered to just over $400.00 and I don't know if they carried the lifetime warranty. I don't know the number of pre production models Gibson sent out to dealerships but it wouldn't have been many. I'm glad I bought the Alvarez 12 string but I should never ever have sold the SG.

2). A Wah Wah pedal. No specific brand in the beginning. Blame it on Clapton. Between "White Room", "Sunshine of Your Love", and "Crossroads" I was sold on this effect for a lifetime. Robin Trower and Frank Marino's use of the Wah Wah just solidified my love for the effect. I have three pedal boards set up and all three have a Wah pedal on board with spare Wahs sitting on a shelf.

3). My Acoustic Control Corp. "Black Widow" six string electric. I purchased it when I mustered out of the U. S. Navy along with the purchase of a Kasino Fever amplifier. While not my favorite electric guitar it certainly holds the spot as the guitar I owned the longest as well as the guitar listeners expected to see strapped on me when I played. It was always in constant use. My three children grew up thinking of it as "dads" guitar. Between the late winter of '77 to just prior to the turn of the century I wore it completely down. Three refrets and finally the fretboard itself worn to the point of needing to be fully replaced. At that point I quite using it but I've never been able to part with it. It no longer has a case. The case finally fell apart into scrap. It no longer hangs on a wall rack but rather just sits tucked in a corner behind some shelves in the music room. I know it's there.

4). My Mesa Boogie, (fully loaded with every available build option), Mark III Blue Stripe head. This was the 4th of 5 versions of the Mark III that virtually made it a reproduction of the Mark IIC+. I loved this amp because it was the first amp I'd found that had massive amounts of gain on tap but didn't give up the warmth or mids the way most other high gain amps of the time were doing. It was extremely versatile. It could go from tweaked Fender Tweed to mid '60s Deluxe or Twin Reverb or, with the use of the graphic equalizer sound like a Marshall JTM45 to a Superlead to JCM800 or even go into SLO territory. While I never used it for Metal I know the boys in Metallica, (I'm told Kirk Hammett's was a blue stripe), did so with great results. The amp worked great until it didn't. Somewhere between 7 and 9 years ago it was cranked and singing sweetly one minutes and making booms and pan fried sounds with smoke billowing from the back along with tiny flames flickering inside. I took it to three different amp techs in the area and learned that all amp techs emit the same woeful laugh when looking at a chassis burned in hell. I've tried to replace it numerous times but virtually all of the used Blue Stripe Mark III's still available on the market aren't the fully loaded versions or have been modified in one way or another. Mine was born and died stock. Of note* From the Mark III's day of purchase until it's untimely death it was always stacked atop a Marshall Vintage 4 X 12" slant cab loaded with Vintage 30s. They paired up beautifully. Up until I discovered Bruno and Cornford amplifiers the Mark III Blue stripe was far and away the finest amp I'd ever owned.

5 & 6). Both my Mesa F-30 combo, (about 22 watts but able to produce 30 watt bursts when required through some type of Mesa proprietary magic) and my Marshall DSL 401 40 watt combo. Both sounded great. The F-30 was much smaller and less versatile but fit perfectly behind the drivers seat of my old Buick Century and was sized perfectly for a grab and go amp to take to friends homes for get togethers and family jams. The DSL 401 was much louder and more versatile than the F-30 but also twice as large and came from the factory with a build flaw that used to routinely toast a circuit board located too close to the vacuum tubes. The reason these two amps are grouped together is because they provided my first insight into the use of EL84 output tubes. Sure. I'd known the Vox sound forever but I thought that the Vox sound was all EL84s were good for and I couldn't have been more wrong. Out of all the amps I currently own only five will follow me into retirement and all five of them use EL84 output tubes. Both Tony Bruno Underground 30s, both Cornfords, (Hellcat and Carrera) and my Mesa Boogie Mark V:35. The EL84 is mandatory for all of my most required amp tones.


Currently I own instruments that took me a lifetime of saving up for and purchasing. Among these are a select few that will never be sold. Looking back on life choices is the lesson plan that taught me to recognize a keeper, pass on a hyped model, only buy signature models based on the instrument itself with no thought to the player whose name is included, taught that the way an instrument melds with me when I play it X build quality and attention to detail are paramount and I have to go in with a price is no object perspective. On multiple occasions over the years I've passed on purchases because of the instruments cost and later came to regret those decisions terribly. I'm not saying an instrument needs to be expensive to be a lifelong keeper. I'm saying no instrument in consideration for purchase as a lifelong keeper is ever too expensive.

After completing my current downsizing the remaining electric guitars that will never leave include my #1 favorite Giffin Standard, 2 Melancon T-style models 2 Gibsons, (a Custom shop CS-336 & a Les Paul Traditional), a Fender Eric Johnson Stratocaster and a Rickenbacker 1993 Plus 12 string. Seven electrics out of more than double that amount currently in the studio. There are also two lifelong keeper acoustics but this thread is about electric guitar gear so I've save them for a later thread.

Anyone else have some history to share? Scores? Mistakes? Discovering your lifelong keepers? Surprises along the way? Something given to you or something stolen at a gig or whatever? Electric guitar player history 101. We can share and learn.:)
 

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I was fortunate that a mentor told me about stupidly selling a 50s Flying V back when he was a kid in the late 60s. He advised that I never sell a really good guitar.

That was in the early 90s, and I have since only sold a guitar or three, one of which I later got back and still have!
 

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My very first guitar purchase was a brand new Jazzmaster in 1970. The following year a music store offered to trade my Jazzmaster for a used ES 355 and $50. The Gibson was scratched with tarnished gold hardware and my Jazzmaster was like new. No way was I going to do that trade. The following year I traded the Jazzmaster for a classical Ovation…..the following year the Ovation neck broke in half in a fall. I never did get my ES 355.
 

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I've owned every holy grail pedal we talk about on here. I've owned mostly higher end MIA guitars. I've been through every amp brand/model and currently own three boutique amps.

The thing that has been consistently illusive? My ***** playing.
^^That pretty much sums me up..... :lol:
Keepers: (although some are gone)
Strats: 98 MIM, 99 EC Strat.
Tele: MIM Thinline early 2000's, Michael Dolsey archtop Tele P90's
In the 70's: 68 ES335, 69 Guild Bluesbird

Acoustic: Guild F5CE, 38 Martin R18, 77 Fender F65 Dreadnaught, Guild Songbird

Amps: (for decades)BFDR, BF Princeton.
Brown 1X12 Vibrolux, 66 Super Reverb, Z Carmen Ghia

Pedals: Ibanez TS9DX, Ditto Loopers
 

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Only have two keepers that I will never sell. PRS Silver Sky and an Epi Les Paul LTD 59. Both really excellent guitars. I've now sold four guitars in the past year (including both of my Teles) and don't regret any of the sales.
 

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I started saving for my first really good guitar in 1974. I wanted a Les Paul, and used ones cost $225 in 1974. I saved and saved for one. By the time I saved $225 they were up to $250. As a college student, I had to save every spare penny for three years, chasing the cost of a used LP. Each time I would save the right amount the price would have gone up. Finally in 1977 I was invited into a hot band and needed a serious guitar. I had saved $425. I traveled back to my hometown and went through the stores looking for one. The new Nashville LPs were in the stores, glossy and slick. I wanted a gold top but all I could find anywhere near my price was an older one in a sort of indescribable sunburst for $475. The manager of the place had seen me in and out for three years and finally took pity on me. I got my LP and he got my money. I quickly fell in love with its unique finish. It's been through lots of miles, smiles,bands, gigs, and sessions. Whenever my little family ran into financial difficulties I offered it up to sell as my only worthwhile possession, but my lovely wife refused to let me sell it. I still love it and play it.

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1978 in '50s group Diamond Dan and the Cut Gems.

Bob
 

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As much as I'd like to, I'm never gonna say "I'm never gonna sell this____!" again.

I said these famous last words about my '68 Deluxe Reverb...

( awesome amp, I remember telling my buddies - " One thing I'm sure of, I'm the LAST owner of this Deluxe!")

...but thing happen in life and we had a $$ emergency. So you learn.

My #1 and #1 guitars are my Martin D-1, and '97 Tex-Mex Stratocaster- a 'million' gigs and jams together- just comfy and sound great. Not worth any big $$, just solid.
Hope they are with me forever.
 

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For me two guitars, one amp and a Vox wah pedal. The guitars, the first Telecaster I owned. It was a 1968 model that had been re-finished, RW fretboard and played like a dream. The other guitar was the second Strat I had. It was a 1979 model that had a hard life,3 mis-matched pickups, etc. I gave $250.00 for it and spent about $350.00 on it bringing back to life. The amp was one of the West Fillmore amps we had from the first band I was in as a kid. They only made about 300 of these from what I understand. The last item was and original Vox wah pedal from back then too, I'm talking late 1960's. At my age I could go on and on about other things that have slipped from my possession over the year not music related, but that's for another time. The one thing I still own from back in that time though is the 1967 Epi Casino my dad bought me when he came home from Viet Nam that year. I'll never part with that.
 

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I've had a lot of electric guitars: Peavey T-60, Les Paul, 335, BC Rich Mockingbird, and a Tokai Strat and the only one I miss is the Tokai. It was a really nice white on white strat I bought off the rack back in 1990 for $300 with case.

Like Chigtr4x I had a 68 DR (first year silverface with the trim around the grill cloth). It was so clean and just sitting on the Guitar Center floor with a bunch of different Fenders for $400. I had it recapped and put a Weber Speaker in it and I was done. I too thought I would never sell it-until my youngest son was diagnosed with Autism and needed ABA therapy.
 

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I got married a long (long) time ago. At that time I didn’t have enough money for an engagement ring. So, for our 10th anniversary I wanted to get my wife the ring I couldn’t afford ten years earlier. Problem was I still didn’t have the cash for a nice diamond ring. But I did have a lot of guitars. (That was the tail end of a time when you could still find treasures. Especially if you traveled around and knew what to look for and where.) So I sold some guitars. Among them the ‘60’s strat pictured here. (Someone had amateurishly turned it into a 2 pu guitar but it was incredible; the best $150 I ever spent.) Along with an old but pristine with hang tags Guild F-20 , a ‘60’s Gibson EBO bass and about 4 or 5 other guitars which I’ve forgotten at the moment. Probably better that way.) Anyway, my wife loved the ring, it made her happy. Which made me happy. At the time I didn’t regret selling the guitars. However, the ring was stolen about a year later and I have spent a fair amount of time thinking about those guitars. Especially that strat. 7CE98F16-6D38-4D44-BC8D-13BA648A862D.jpeg
 

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Though I have been primarily a frontman since I was a teenager, I still have the pre cbs Duo Sonic I bought when I was 16. A year or two back I sold a 1975 Precision I owned for 38 years, but honestly I was never totally wild about it and with the sale proceeds I bought a 2020 Fender Professional Precision that is a better bass, imo, plus a MIM Jazz bass and a new case to go with it, and had money left. I also sold a 1979 Peavey T-60 that I actually bought new in late 1978. It was never my dream guitar either but it was the best I could afford back then. I still have the Peavey 212 Classic amp I bought at the same time but it smoked out on me one night and hasn't worked since.
 

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Biggest Regret sales -
1) Supposed 1956 Les Paul Gold Top
2) 1962 Olympic White Strat
3) 1968 Jazz Bass at cost ($400) to my bass player who then proceeded to quit and take the bass with him.

Second Tier Regret sales -
4) My first electric in 1979 I paid $270 for a Telecaster Deluxe in mocha. Traded it for the musical equivalent of a handful of beans at the prodding of said bass player mentioned above.
5) My 1967 Gretsch Tennessean which also went out as part of said trade above. I don't regret getting rid of the guitar just that I got truly nothing for it.

Bubbling Under but rising in the charts Regret sales-
6) My 1968 Vox Starstream XII. The Voxes with effects have really gone up in value of late.
7) My 1966 Rickenbacker 365.

Amp Sales I don't Regret (particularly the large ones) but wish I had known about original transformers, tubes, taking out the chassis and taking pics to get the most value:
8) 2x Blackface Super Reverbs
9) 2x Blackface Twin Reverbs
10) Oahu (Valco) student amp; and original Epiphone Electra Amp (the wooden cab one with the "E" logo over the speaker grill that they have reissued more recently.
 

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I figured out what features on guitars made them keepers or sellers, which I 'bonded to' and which I did not ... and then modified them so I did. While I have guitars I'll hang onto, I could easily transform complete replacement guitars into what I want:

-Chunky neck
-Level frets
-'Eased in' (rolled fretboard, filed fretends)
-Tele bridge pickup
-Strat neck pickup
-P90 bridge pickup
-Jazzmaster neck pickup
-Humbucker bridge pickup if rotated 180deg so the screw poles are on the north bobbin
-Pots and caps measured and selected for tone and feel.
-Great switch and jack, feel and durability/reliability.
-Woods don't matter, except I want local non-exotic (no need for rain forest lumber, the tone is in the 'electronical' parts).
-Ergonomics of a Tele is best ... location of the bridge to strap pins and thus frets and nut. SG is too far to the left, Strat is actually too far to the right. Tele knob locations, but flipped for V,T,Switch to the rear.

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I've been through way too many to list or think about, wish I had done less buying and selling at some points and just focused on playing. Right now the only "one that got away" I can think of is a simple, black PRS S2 Mira from a few years back, I sold it to afford a killer amp that I love, but I still wish I'd found a way to keep that one. I've had fancier guitars for sure but don't miss them at all.
 

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A remotely known brand called "Profile" made in the Fuji- Gen factory in the late 70s, early 80s. They made the early Fender Japan guitars there Had a Tele and a strat, both of which are highly valued now. GREAT guitars.
 

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My two favourite pieces of gear just kind of happened. I was convinced by David Lindley that I needed a Danelectro, and the first time I saw one in real life was the day I got my first credit card (literally 30 minutes earlier). Destiny. Then, I needed an amp. Somehow, I thought I needed a Princeton Reverb. I had never played through one, but I found one for sale in a Denver music store for $250. I bought it without knowing that a Princeton Reverb II is NOT the same thing. In the end, those both became my schtick. I was “that Danelectro guy” who had “that PRII.”

In much the same way, I am “that guy who plays an archtop.” I bought an old Gretsch archtop from my uncle, and played it until it fell apart. I have had dreads, but given my choice, I’ll always go with an archtop.

I think the lesson is, I can’t pick gear, but gear is more than capable of picking me.

EDIT: I still own the Danelectro and the PRII, and I even have the broken bits of the Gretsch in the tattered original case.
 
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