EH Holy Grail Nano Neo....Help.....

Discussion in 'The Stomp Box' started by Joe M, May 21, 2019.

  1. Joe M

    Joe M Super Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    3,157
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Michigan
    Admin Post
    Just picked up this pedal to use with my one amp that doesn't have built-in reverb. The reverb sound is great, sounds very similar to the one in my Fender Deluxe Reverb. Problem is, unless my ancient ears have really gone south, which is a distinct possibility, I can't hear any difference in the three different settings; spring, hall, plate. Before I take it back to the store and tell them there's something wrong with it, help me out, is there a noticeable difference in the three settings?

    Thanks
     
  2. theprofessor

    theprofessor Poster Extraordinaire

    Posts:
    5,110
    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2016
    Location:
    Chattanooga, TN
    I agree that the EH Holy Grail nano is a great reverb that sounds quite like the reverb that's built into a Deluxe Reverb. That's why I bought it. But you should be able to hear the difference between spring and hall, and I think the third option should be flerb. It is on mine, anyway. But even if it's plate, you should definitely be able to hear a difference. Turn the mix way up and see if you can hear the difference. If you can't, the switch isn't working properly.
     
  3. Art VanDelay

    Art VanDelay Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,167
    Joined:
    May 20, 2018
    Location:
    Arcata
    I feel like some people may not be able to tell the difference between spring & plate, but the flerb should be noticeably different. It's a reverse reverb, right? Maybe the 3-way switch is shot?
     
  4. Joe M

    Joe M Super Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    3,157
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Michigan
    Admin Post
    Guys, this is the “Neo” model, no flerb setting, plate instead.
     
  5. E5RSY

    E5RSY Doctor of Teleocity

    Age:
    53
    Posts:
    10,498
    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2009
    Location:
    Georgetown, TX
    Right. EHX wisely ditched "Flerb" in the current version.
     
  6. W.L.Weller

    W.L.Weller Tele-Holic

    Posts:
    679
    Joined:
    May 20, 2014
    Location:
    Queens
    No audible difference no matter the knob position on each setting?
     
  7. ReverendRevolver

    ReverendRevolver Tele-Afflicted

    Posts:
    1,285
    Joined:
    Feb 2, 2019
    Location:
    Ohio (Nerk)
    I'm an Avid EHX fan, and it seems more likely the unit is defective than they put a control for an effect with no difference.

    If you bought it at GC, I always feel confident that if I embarrass myself not knowing something, thier turnover is high enough that I wont encounter the same employee again.....

    Either way, I wish you luck getting it working 100%. The nano shells look cool.
     
  8. lineboat

    lineboat Friend of Leo's

    Posts:
    3,062
    Joined:
    Aug 6, 2012
    I had one of those and found it to be “ok”.
    Went to a Keeley Omni and haven’t looked back. HUGE difference in the two!
     
  9. J-Flanders

    J-Flanders Tele-Meister

    Posts:
    159
    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2016
    Location:
    Flanders
    I have the nano and the big box classic where I changed the flerb to plate, so it's actually a neo classic. :)
    Compared to other reverb pedals all the modes on the Holy Grail sound very similar.
    They seem to be one and the same algorithm slightly tweaked (brighter/duller, splashier, more/less predelay, shorter/longer decay etc) and then given a name like plate, hall, room, spring...
    If you turn up the mix to 100% wet you should definitely hear some differences but playing at moderate volumes and at low mix settings, they sound the same.
     
  10. Joe M

    Joe M Super Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    3,157
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Michigan
    Admin Post
    Thanks for that. That is kinda what I was starting to think. I've only tried the pedal at moderate volume with just a bit of reverb, not surf city. Again, I don't have a problem with the sound, just thought I'd hear a difference. I always just use a bit of verb to add some depth, if that's the case, the pedal is fine. I'll give it a try at the 100% setting when I get home later this afternoon to see if it sounds different, even though I'll never crank it.
     
  11. Joe M

    Joe M Super Moderator Staff Member

    Posts:
    3,157
    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2003
    Location:
    Michigan
    Admin Post
    Update....tried the pedal set at 100% wet. I did hear a slight difference in the three settings, seems to be very minimal. At this point, I’ve got to believe there’s something wrong with the pedal, taking it back tomorrow.
     
IMPORTANT: Treat everyone here with respect, no matter how difficult!
No sex, drug, political, religion or hate discussion permitted here.