Early Tele Ad

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  1. Chanan

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    I saw this posted on a different thread. Got me wondering - from the language in the ad, it seems the tone pot was only wired to the bridge pup. Is that true? If so, when did that change?

    For bonus points - does anybody know what year this ad is from?

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    1951?
     
  3. Chanan

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    Didn’t it only become a ‘tele’ post ‘52?
     
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    Notice the "blacked-out/redacted" area in the upper-right corner with "Telecaster" obviously added-in above it.
     
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    OK... It still has the dark circuit, but the blend pot is labeled tone (but reads like it's a blend) ... Then there is the redacted area below 'Telecaster'... I'd say the ad is from 51, final answer.
     
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    I was guessing 52
     
  8. Chanan

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    So it’s basically a broadcaster ad that they slapped ‘telecaster’ on eh?

    Fascinating. Thanks guys
     
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    From John Bell, a gentleman I was talking to about this.
    "Had the same one with my '52. If you hold it up to the light, the you can read Broadcaster through the blacked out part."
     
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    From the Telecaster book by A.R. Duchossoir, this is the circuit for 1950 - 1952 2 pick up Esquire, Broadcaster, No-caster and early Telecasters.

    In the front position you get the neck pick up with a faux-bass tone cap and no tone control.

    In the middle you get the neck pick up with the natural sounding cap and no tone control.

    In the rear position you get both pick ups together with the neck pick up blended to the bridge according to the setting of the tone control. Again no real tone control. I think that means the volume controlled the bridge volume and the tone set the neck volume.

    I think they called it the tone control in this ad because that's what is was on the one pick up Esquires.

    I bet many were converted to the later circuits, but maybe that's why Roy, Albert, Vince and others play/played '53 blackguards.
     
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    I've seen this ad on a lot of norm's rare guitars. You can tell it's immediately following the Broadcaster series as Leo put black marker through the word "broadcaster" to save on wasting what was already printed!
     
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    I'd buy one .
     
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    Thanks for sharing
     
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    The real reason that they called it a tone control is because it changed the tone from the neck pickup to the bridge pickup with the second knob. This allowed it to make a change in the overall sound of the instrument. And the middle position has no capacitor - that is bypassed in this position if you look at it. It wasn't faux, or fake but this capacitor caused the neck pickup to have a very bassy sound. This was so that they could play bass lines before the Fender Precision Bass was invented later in 1951. They kept this wiring combination until 1967 making this feature uneccessary. Why they waited so long to change it is anyones' guess, but it DOES make a muffled low volume sound as if turning your volume down and the tone knob off!
     
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    That's fascinating to think that this setting bridge pickup/ both pickups/ neck pickup, with global volume and tone that seems so evident today, hasn't been set in the factory before 1967, which was the beginning of the CBS era. The 1950's were a different world but it took to the Telecaster this tiny adaptation to be ready to keep going on her travel through time.
     
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    I have an original hard copy of an ad like that somewhere, need to frame it.
     
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    this matches the evolution of the model, no? broadcaster—> nocaster —> telecaster which all took place within about 8 months time, IIRC. October 1950 - mid year 1951.

    Blend circuit was still on the ‘51 Teles and maybe even for a bit into ‘52?
     
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