i have an old CD called tony brock rock drummer that someone gave me and i never really messed with it before. i was tinker with it last night and found it kind of interesting. it has a bunch of recorded patterns (of real drum kits) and you can play through them and find something that's in the ballpark of what you are after, then drag it over into the DAW and massage it. it's kind of hard to use actually but it is workable. with some patience and tweaking it's possible to end up with some not terrible sounding drum tracks, i think. does anyone else mess with loops like this? can you recommend some good ones? this "rock" oriented thing i have has a lot of good sounding full on "ROCK" kits/beats but a lot of the time i'm looking for something a lot more mellow and quiet. thank you.