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DRRI Consolation Buy

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by PluckNCluck, Mar 14, 2021.

  1. tfarny

    tfarny Friend of Leo's

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    Sorry, but I am so tired of seeing this one. I fight a Twin in the rehearsal space all the time, and I just bought an AC30 with a MV and it's almost as touchy even with a gain / master setup. It's so hard to find the right pinprick on the dial between zero and too loud, and the amp just doesn't sound as good as it does on 3-4, and we both know it sounds its best even higher than that. If I turn my guitar volume down to 1 or 2, my boost and comp pedals work entirely differently and not well. One can play a huge amp quietly, it's just not that great an experience.
    Old school tube amps have a comfort zone they are designed for.
     
  2. tfarny

    tfarny Friend of Leo's

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    Oh, and OP, yeah, get a clean SS amp if you really want very clean tones and nothing else. Million choices.
     
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  3. Drew617

    Drew617 Tele-Meister Silver Supporter

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    I think some of it's that the DR/PR can be seen as interchangeable because they're adjacent in the BF-SF-RI lineup. I imagine demand for one bleeds into demand for the other. That's my guess anyway based on the number of "DR vs PR?" threads from prospective owners, as though they're small and medium versions of the same thing.

    They're not really, whether it matters probably depends how either are used. I suspect a lot of the "interchangeable" people don't turn either one up past 4, or just have tin ears. Some of the bigger AB763s sound really different from each other despite being "the same circuit" - uh huh, at different voltages, with different power sections, different numbers of gain stages, different NFB, different iron... - and the PR's not even one of those.

    Sure, ignoring hum you can get anything down to a whisper, but some amps will sound way better than others doing it. The Princeton should be operating differently than the Deluxe in order to produce the same SPL.
     
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  4. Twang Deluxe

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    How about a Tone Master Deluxe Reverb?
     
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  5. PluckNCluck

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    Only $100 less than the real thing sadly. It wins on being able to get quieter though.
     
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  6. OlRedNeckHippy

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    Our lead player has been playing Twins for ever, currently it's a TM Twin.
    I'm lead vocal and rhythm guitar, with a 1966 Princeton Reverb.
    The lead player has asked Me to Turn Down more times than I care to mention, and I have never asked him to turn down.
    Volume is not the issue.
     
  7. alnico357

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    Chances are, the rhythm player is hitting 5-6 strings with each stroke, the lead player one or two. It adds up. Our rhythm player is louder than me, the lead player.
     
  8. PluckNCluck

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    It is if you aren't on stage but in small bedroom converted to tracking/mixing space. Sound builds up very quickly.
     
  9. OlRedNeckHippy

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    We play(ed) out a lot, BC (before Covid).

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  10. PluckNCluck

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    Ok so we've got:
    VHT 12/20
    Peavey Special 130
    Peavey BanditTransTube
    Peavey Studio Pro 112 TransTube


    Could a Super Champ X2 foot the bill?
     
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  11. Jay Jernigan

    Jay Jernigan Tele-Afflicted

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    John Lennon was famously louder than George Harrison in the studio.
    I noticed that there was a recommendation for a Super Champ X2. I second that. It was the"amp of choice" mentioned in my previous post. It quit on me only because of a pre-amp tube, no telling how old, so no fault of the amp. I have an XD, also, and it's a different animal in terms of voicings and FX. Either one is a good choice.
     
  12. middy

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    I’ve used a Twin for lots of stuff at any volume level and it sounds good. Living room practice, playing with a singer/acoustic player in a small room, playing with a quiet combo, playing with a loud combo outdoors...
    You’re not doing it right, I guess.
     
  13. PluckNCluck

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    Thank you... Not sure how I missed that
     
  14. PluckNCluck

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    I guess you're just better than most other people? ;)
     
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    I don’t think most people have a problem. I think most people just repeat what they read.
     
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  16. PluckNCluck

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    Maybe. Or maybe they have an experience other than yours. I know this is the experience I've had with my high watt tube amps.

    Either way it's an odd thing to scrabble about and was irrelevant to the topic.
     
  17. middy

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    You said you wanted a “quieter box” than a DRRI. A 2 watt amp is about half as loud as a 20 watt amp, so good luck with the search for something that helps you get by without learning how volume controls work.
     
  18. PluckNCluck

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    Not sure why this gets you so worked up. You're just better. Own it, enjoy it, allow me to be envious and then let's move on.

    Do you know of a 2 watt that sounds somewhate like a DR and is also cheaper?
     
  19. middy

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    That’s the rub. Anything less than 10 watts has kind of crap bass response, so no.
    If you’re like other newbs, though, you’re going to want a 0.1 watt amp with good bass response that you can crank for power tube distortion with plenty of clean headroom and an effects loop for your tonez.
     
  20. Siamese

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    Get the DRRI. You deserve it. YOLO. Just do it.

    I've become a big fan of attenuators. Dial the amp into the sweet spot where it's cookin', and then the volume knob I reach for is on the attenuator.
     
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