DrASATele's Brotherhood Build "Simplified"

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  1. DrASATele

    DrASATele Poster Extraordinaire

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    I couldn't agree more, it starts to feel less wood more instrument!

    I do plan on using a neck plate and I did switch to a smaller radius. But I need to check that radius against the plate it might still be too round. If that's the case I'll shorten up my screws (if needed) and recess the plate flush with body... if that's not possible I keep those ferrules around too. I totally appreciate the offer though!

    I think in the interest of keeping things simple, I'll switch up the neck pickup to a humbucker so I don't have to make a template for that odd sized firebird looking thing. I have several HBs in stock so that will be an easy switch.

    I need to get back into the shop today! The Stay at home "advisory" here pulled me away from the weekends guitar work to prep for more isolation ;)
     
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    Amazon has a full to mini humbucker adapter plate for about $7,FYI
     
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    It's actually just a touch bigger than a mini humbucker but not quite a P90. Funny thing is, I didn't want to make a template for it but ended up having to make one for the Tele bridge Pickup. Joke's on me I guess.

    After drawing the humbucker and lining things up I'm liking the look of it all better than with the odd ball pickup. I have to say I have a bias because I love my G&L blues boy and it has the same set up, Keith style, Hum in neck, single in the bridge. I also discovered I have a humbucker that my dad wound a little over a year ago. So this build will end up having some family mojo top to bottom.
    Which is good, as my 7 year old son has been saying I too miss everyone. My mom dad and sister are in the high risk category and with my wife working in the pharmacy everyday we can't see them or anyone else. If we get it, we won't transmit it because we are already cut off seeing them.

    I hope my fellow brotherhood builders are health and strong!
     
  4. DrASATele

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    Looks like I can use the neck plate, still thinking about recessing it...maybe . . .

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    Time for a neck pocket, first to the drill press to hog out most of the area.

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    And I forgot to take a pic of the neck pocket template and router set up, not that y'all haven't seen it before.

    So on to the money shot ;)

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    There's just a little wiggle room, which is perfect for some finish and flexibility when I finally get around to bolting it on.

    Then to the ruler so I can get my bridge placement.

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  5. DrASATele

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    How do y'all like your pickup, humbucker routs? Flat bottom or 2 levels a deep one for the legs mixed with a shallower one for the center?
    I've been doing them all 1 height in most builds thinking it would take just a tiny bit more weight off but I'm curious as to what y'all do or like?
     
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    First thanks for your thoughts on keeping us healthy and strong.

    I build with a .5 to .75 inch drop top and do a fairly heavy carve including a belly cut on my guitars. This restricts how much chambering I can do. I make my pickup routs as deep as possible down to about 1/4 inch from the bottom. I feel that it is not acceptable for a finished tele style guitar to be heaver than 7.5 pounds. If I use alder for the back body I have no problems. When I use sapele/mahogany I really have to max out on removing as much weight as possible. Even at 8 ponds (to me) the guitar is too heavy and not what I would consider a quality instrument. I have to add that I have owned a Les Paul and hated how heavy it was. I have a '76 strat that is ash and a bit over 8 lbs as well and I feel that is too heavy as well. I have talked to professional musicians mainly getting feedback for my builds and most have said weight plays an important consideration in the guitars they play. Some weights just from the net.

    The Fender Telecaster typically weighs about 7.5-8 pounds (3.6kg).

    Gibson Les Paul will typically weigh anywhere from 9-12 pounds (4.1 kg – 5.4kg) depending on the model.

    The average weight of a Fender Stratocaster is about 8 pounds (3.6 kg).

    The Ibanez RG Prestige RG652 weighs about 7 pounds (3.1kg).

    The PRS Custom 24 weighs about 8.5 pounds (3.8kg)
     
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    Great insight Wade. The PRS is surprising, I've gotten the impression they were lighter. I haven't played many. This guitar is shaping up to be in the 4-5 lb range maybe lighter as the neck is much lighter than the similar maple ones I have in the shop just in feel alone. I did the 2 step humbucker cavity just for the hell of it.
     
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    So off to the drill press to hog out some wood . . .
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    and then break out the templates and the router . . .

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    Test fit . . .

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    Oh yeah!
     
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    Oh yeah, oh yeah! Loving it.
     
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    Oh Yeah I'm Loving it !!

    One Tele Deluxe Double Cut sandwich to go please!:D Yummy!
     
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    Yes Sir!

    Got a little fore(arm) play in last night . . . :lol:o_O

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    Then some inlay . . .
    I'm using a 1/4 brad point with my aluminum L cut off template for the fretboard.
    I marked the centers on each fret and down one side for the side dots.
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    I use that same template which also has a side marker on it. This makes sure all the markers are in the same spot. Same with the template above. I have 2 or 3 of them for different locations on the fret board and side markers.

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    I decide against doing the markers in the neck section and went with the fret board edge so I'm switching to a lighter inlay there. They are actually glow in the dark doodles.

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    I'll fill the inlay in on the fret board after I radius it. I'm doing that because the abalone I'm using is very thin and I don't want to sand through them. I may change up the 12 fret with some MOP dots just because I have them.
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    Not sure what I did with the pic order there...ooops
     
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    Wow, I've never seen that design for dot markers before.

    Cool thread and build. Thanks, Doc!
     
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    Very cool little jig!
     
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    I see what you did thereo_O
     
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    Lunch break update . . .
    My tummy is a little too round so I kept with the Deluxe theme and added the tummy cut.

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    Of course I went at it the simple way with a couple dozen passes with the B&D belt sander and then I followed it up my Shinto rasp (not seen in pictures)

    Then off to the drill press for hogging out the control cavities . . .

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    To the router, where I discovered I don't have a template for this control cavity so I used the straight edge of a MDF template to clean things up.

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    Then back to the drill press for the jack hole ;)
    I did 3 steps 1 inch, 7/8ths, 3/4 just incase I find a gold electro-socket kicking around I've already got a nice recess.
    Here's a question... Do you center your jack on the width of the body? or do you favor the front or back a little?
    I like to push it ever so slightly towards the back for ease of access and less cord rub. I did a bass with a strat jack on the back and the dude playing that bass loves it. I might have to revisit that idea in some fashion on another build. Anyway . . .

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    I like that dot marker design, very unique.
     
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    Like the jig you didi it with.
     
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    Man, great work. Thanks for sharing.

    Eric
     
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    Thank you kindly!

    This weekend was much different from last, I actually spent all day on Saturday in the shop and even part of Sunday!

    I was so excited about . . . sanding! Not! but I did it. . .

    Had a few steps to get through before I started.
    First up neck mounting holes. I did pin holes with a 3/32 bit and then widened them to 4mm.
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    How many out there use the actual bridge to set the location of the string through? It seemed like a no brainer. I realized this was my first tele ashtray bridge. My Uncle who build my first 3 bodies, 7 years ago, actually did Tele bridges on those bodies and since then I've only done wrap arounds and 1 trem. Anyway . . .

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    Pilot holes to get us started probably the 3/32 bit again. Then time to break out one of my simplified methods for doing the ferrules in the back. My Uncle was a machinist for GE probably could have made this jig/template but I bought it off of fleebay.

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    Obviously that was the easy part of Saturday. Then I sanded.... and sanded . . . and sanded.
    Then I got out my waterbased stain conditioner and my stain and got to work.

    Here's my sanding schedule for this one:

    80 for all the rough surfaces and roundovers
    100
    120
    150
    180
    220 . . . grain raise
    220
    320 . . . Conditioner
    320 . . . Stain

    And here we are . . . looking kind of blonde meets TV Yellow

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