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Dog Ear P90s

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by Laren, Aug 27, 2020.

  1. Laren

    Laren Tele-Meister

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    Hi guys, your help needed, again.

    I building a LP junior and was just looking up how to route for a dog ear P90 and this lead, inexorably, down the rabbit hole.

    It seems the 'dog ears' sit on there top of the guitar so, presumably, this means that you can't adjust the pickup height (unless you shim them)?

    Is there a way to mount them or should I go for soapbar P90s? Although I'm not sure they would look right.

    Any feedback appreciated.
     
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  2. Collin D Plonker

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    You are right. No adjustment. What do you mean "mount" them?
     
  3. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Yes, shims are used to raise up dogears, it's part of their charm IME. I wouldn't build or buy a Junior any other way, including the solid bar aluminum wraparound. Be that a personal preference, if you see yourself constantly needing to adjust pickup height, then a soapbar isn't bad, just looks different.
     
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  4. Collin D Plonker

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    You still need a route.
     
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  5. Laren

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    Not really sure. Maybe route the dog ear shape and put 'foam' underneath like you would a soapbar?
     
  6. BorderRadio

    BorderRadio Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    You'd need more than foam to keep the pickup coil assembly from sinking. Springs on mounting screws would work, with foam under the main portion of the pickup to maintain the tilt. From the side view though, you'd have a gap when raising the pickup above the body. If that bugs you, well, you'd still be using shims to hide that gap.
     
  7. Laren

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    Yes I see what you mean.
     
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  8. Laren

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    Think you might be right. I'll just have to be careful installing it then.
     
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    I can't see any reason to install a dog-ear P90 on a solid body guitar.

    Full hollow body, yes.
     
  10. Laren

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    I've only got this far so far ...
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    BorderRadio Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    It's a Junior tradition for me, a Must-Have. kind of like a Sparkle or Duo Jet with Dynasonics, though in fairness, a real Jet is really a mini-hollowbody.
     
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    archetype Fiend of Leo's

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    6 pole screws adjust both up and down. Raising the screws provides slightly different tone and response than raising the entire pickup. Like @BorderRadio says, it's a Junior. You want the Junior experience, right?
     
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    -A soap bar may fit your HB routs.
    -Keep in mind that P90's sound best further away from the strings to most people. I'd say twice as far. Therefore, adjustment is often not needed, you use the pole screws for adjustment.
    -Also, you can take a dogear cover and simply bolt a soapbar in back of it.
    -Also, dogear covers are available in different heights, although sometimes hard to find.
    -Also spacers are made for under dogears for the bridge pickup.
    -Also, you can get soapbar trim plates that cover HB routs.
     
  15. Laren

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    So I'll still need to route out a shallow cavity though?
     
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    You screw them to the top. But the main part of the pickup sits below the surface. So you need to route the hole, put spacers in between if needed, and screw them down. The only adjustment is the six screws that sit under the strings.
     
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    Shouldn't you have posted this topic yesterday, during National Dog Day?
     
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    Yes, this. A Jr. with the P90 sitting right under the strings, 50s wiring for interactive tone options, screw poles completely down IS what a makes a Jr. fun and adaptable. It's hard to get the pickup to tilt with the shims I use (Lollar) but it's worth it (sanded one down).
     
  19. Laren

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    Many thanks guys. Things are much clearer now. Lets see if I can get it done without messing up now.
     
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    From the mlp forum..

    "They do need routing. The bottom of the dogear baseplate sits roughly 5/16" below the guitar body surface."

    I did a Thinline with soapbars and love them.
     
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