Does truth exist?

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  1. darkwaters

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    It all comes down, I think, to how you define "truth". There are different "truths". To me, what we imperfectly call "truth" falls into two main classifications: objective truth and intersubjective truth.

    An example of objective truth would be, for example, the effects of gravity. Gravity exists. It's measurable, quantifiable, and is easily proven. If you doubt it, throw a rock straight up into the air and wait. The truth of gravity will be proven to you very quickly.

    Intersubjective truth is a tougher nut to crack. These are the truths that I believe you're implying. They have to do with an agreed on worldview that a group of people share. The most obvious examples would probably get me in trouble. A safe example might be "Honesty is the best policy." Lots and lots of people would agree on this old saying and, if you asked them, they would say that it's absolutely true. But is it? Does believing that it's true make it true? Is it quantifiable? Is it measurable? In the end, isn't it just and unproveable idea, rather than a "truth"?

    Whew. That's pretty heavy for first thing in the morning. My head hurts. Truth ! ;)
     
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    Truth is better than Beckola, but the bootleg live stuff from the first couple tours is tremendous/molten...
     
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    Almost said track 9 and 2001... But those two data points I wasn't 100% sure of.
     
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    Let's say you watch someone jump off a diving board. Someone says "hey, did that guy just jump off that diving board?". You say "yes".
    The truth is the guy jumped off the diving board. Truth exists.

    Truth: Noun: the quality or state of being true.
     
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    The scientist says I scientist made this observation in Russia, publishes the finding in a peer reviewed journal, and scientists in China and the US say I too made that observation.

    The only thing that stands in the way of refuting solipsism is it's own as yet unfounded claims.
    The lack of peer review to confirm that singularity hurts its credibility...

    We can certainly debate that possibility with either ourselves if true or others if false, but as a theory it holds little "truth".

    Overall of course, our perception of reality is our sticky wicket and ours alone!
     
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    As for math, its truth happens in an abstract mathematical universe.
     
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    I should have locked this thread way earlier. A discussion of truth is necessarily a philosophical topic... which draws in religious comments... which is against forum rules.

    And you know this, MAN.
     
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