Does truth exist?

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  1. RoscoeElegante

    RoscoeElegante Friend of Leo's

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    Yep. And only truth's (partial) knowability allows us to distinguish between illogic and logic, nonsense dogma and verifiable claims, etc.

    I have a historian friend who was fond of saying "History is only what white males claim to flatter their white maleness."

    "But you're an historian. You write history. Doesn't that contradict your claim? And how can you even know that they're misrepresenting historical fact unless historical fact could be known apart from what people misrepresent about it?"

    "Well, umm, uh...."

    Thirty-nine years in academia, in the middle of its split between fact-seeking scientists and truth-fogging humanities "scholars," has left me with no patience for one side of this divide.

    When one of my daughters almost died from a rupturing appendix, I was damn glad that her doctors, nurses, and technicians--and all the scientists who'd spent centuries ferreting out all that knowledge--weren't relativist clowns.
     
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    Sure. I am an extremely cool dude.

    There.

    Truth.
     
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    Truth does exist. For example it’s true that Paulownia is a great tone wood....
     
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    Yes it does. Truth exists. Only the lazy (most of us) could even question this (no offense). For that matter....right is right...and wrong is wrong....but many seem to fail to understand that as well.

    Regrettably your question is understandable these days. The propaganda machines are implanted in our cars, homes, and even in our pockets and purses. Even my 13 year old daughter, however, questions the (news) stories that she reads before she assumes it truth.

    Does 'news' exist?
     
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  5. El Tele Lobo

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    Yes, truth exists. And absolute truth absolutely exists.

    IBTIL
     
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    People are flushing toilets like 10 times, 15 times.
     
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    The turd you're alluding to -- more of a stubborn floater, or ginormous?
     
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    Here you define truth in the context of a thread questioning whether or not it exists as being modern and practical.

    Will the engine from a Chevy pickup fit in a Chevy pickup?
    Yes is both true and false.

    Will chemo cure cancer?
    Yes is both true and false.

    Are all laws of physics irrefutable?
    Yes is both true and false.

    Does that mean we don’t put a new engine in our pickup, get treatment for our cancer, or theorize within the laws of physics?
    IDK but all of those choices have pros and cons, as well as presumption that following an established truth will yield expected results sometimes returning results other than promised or implied by the truth used in the decision making process.

    So of course there are things on your list of truths and they are truths.
    But all including many laws of physics can sometimes turn out to be false.

    This is just working with your chosen practical definition of truth.
    I suspect the OP was asking a different question.
     
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    So if i pushed someone off a cliff, they only need to believe that they won’t fall in order to survive?
     
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    but only if they 'believe'.
     
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    Asking for your friend Wiley Coyote?
     
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    Read, “A History of the Devil” by Gerald Messadié. It might change the way that you think about things.

    And if anyone stumbles onto a chunk of objective reality, I’d really like to see it.
     
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    Personally, I have a two-flush max and have only used it 3-4 times in 56 years. But I think they were murky clouds that would not clear.
     
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    That's not true. Everyone knows the Beatles were the ones conjured up to impress chicks. And the Beatles are awesome. Therefore, chicks know the truth.
     
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    Sir, this is a Wendy's drive thru. Your gonna have to order or I'll ask you to leave.
     
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    i WENT LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH.......
    when I was 18 or so, I learned about a lot of things each new skill or task had an element of truth contained with in .
    The stoned street swami:sami XXX said "I dont' claim to have a corner on the truth, but I do know anyone that says they know thee truth wants something from you, run from them."
     
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    He's gonna say he was gonna get the chicken sammich, but he'll end up with a four patty and cheeseburger... because... we can.
     
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    A wise man once told me, “There’s three sides to every story: Your side, my side, and the truth. “ So yes, the truth really does exist.
     
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