I ask because I just got out of the studio. The vocals sounded great to my ears through his monitors, he was running some effects. Not any pitch correction, but some reverb and some eq that made it sound pretty bright. When we were done we arranged to do the mix, which wasnt too much. He sent me the songs so I could hear how the vocals turned out, and it was bone try, alot darker sounding and the backing vocals were too low. It was honestly a bit depressing, and I was not sure why he changed it. Maybe because we still need to do the actual mix. I guess part of it is my voice and singing didnt sound as good as I would like it to. I've never been too high on my singing, but in the studio I thought I sounded alot better. I figured it was because I wasnt using a garbage mic to sing through and I could just stand up and concentrate on my performance without worrying about doing the recording stuff like on my home demos. I'm in my 30s but I'm a classic rock guy. I need some reverb and compression on my vocals. I don't like music where it just sounds like some dude straight singing in a vocal booth in a studio. Thats what I don't like about how alot of modern hip hop is produced, and I don't think it should be applied to rock music. This basically what I'm going for. Can you hear how its bright, with reverb how it just cuts through the mix? Obviously Joe wasn't a great singer technically, but he was good enough for rock n roll, and the way they produced the vocals made it sound good in spite of his limited range and technique. Another part of me though wonders if I'm just being dishonest with myself, and I should just take some vocal lessons of something to sound better. I think it's a bit of both. I do need to improve, but production is important to make good sounding records.