teletail
Friend of Leo's
A birth year guitar, dumb an idea as it is, is a guitar made the year you were born. So no, a guitar made in any other year is NOT a birth year guitar. You can call a chicken a duck, but it won't quack.
Does a reissue count as a birth year guitar?
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Red Ryder
Tele-Afflicted
A reissue is a new guitar. A birth year is a used guitar. What do you want.
ClashCityTele
Friend of Leo's
Hell yes! If you believe in reincarnation.
I have a 1962 Squier CV Tele. That's good enough for me.
I have a 1962 Squier CV Tele. That's good enough for me.
Exactly this minus the dumb part. I wouldn't mind having a guitar built the year I was born.
Only if you and the reissue were leap year babies.
Otisblove
Tele-Meister
In my meaningless opinion, owning a guitar that was made in the year of your birth is no more and no less important than owning a spatula that was made in the year of your birth.
willietheweirdo
Tele-Meister
Go have a kid and buy the guitar, then put the kid up for adoption. Be a man.
(Just be sure to wait till the next year to pull the trigger on the guitar if the deed is done after April Fools Day...)
(Just be sure to wait till the next year to pull the trigger on the guitar if the deed is done after April Fools Day...)
Midgetje94
Friend of Leo's
Hell. I’m 1993. Most I see are more than I’m willing to pay. But I’m pretty cheap unless it’s a build
colchar
Friend of Leo's
It takes months to make a guitar, and the date in a serial number only indicates the date the serial number was applied (long before the guitar is finished) so I don't understand why people believe they can get birth year or birth date guitars. It is a completely false belief.
I really don't get it .... I understand that it's pretty cool to think "This guitar is older than me!" but why birth year?
dougstrum
Friend of Leo's
Bet there are young players with reissue that was made in their birth year, with the reissue year being a grandparents birth year~
tele pickin'
TDPRI Member
Could be except if you own a
Martin Guitars 000-30 Authentic 1919
The short answer is no. That being said I have two birth year guitars but I only bought them because I wanted those guitars not the year. Before I came here I’d never even heard of this, but that may be because I don’t get around much.
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chris m.
Doctor of Teleocity
I say yes, being born in the early 60s. Think about this-- you aren't even made in your birth year, not anymore. Except for some cortex cells your entire body's cells are replaced every 7 to 10 years. Your red blood cells are replaced about every 4 months.
So we're all only 7 to 10 years old. My cells have been replaced somewhere around 6 to 8 times already.
You may ask then why do we age if our old cells are constantly being replaced by young cells? Well, the prevailing theory is the somatic theory of aging-- that our DNA directs making a copy. But like copying a cassette rather than the original recording, seven years later we are making a copy of a copy, and so there are slight errors in DNA replication that accumulate up over time. Some of us age faster than others if we are unlucky enough to have more random mutations, or because we inherited replication error correction systems that are less effective than those of other people. Another factor is programmed senescence. We might have built in clocks in our systems that basically cause us to age. Lots of biotech firms out there chasing the fountain of youth are trying to figure out where those doomsday clocks are and how to shut them off, as well as how to bolster our DNA error-checking-and-repair systems. The latter would also help reduce the development of cancers. Because of the cumulative DNA mutation problem, which not only creates cancer cells but also degrades the systems that detect and destroy cancers, right now anyone who doesn't die first of something else is eventually going to get some kind of cancer, no matter how healthy their lifestyle.
What would be the adaptive value of programmed senescence? How about this-- we have lived as hominids in small, genetically closely related bands for millions of years. If the older ones are sure to die off then maybe that leaves more resources for the younger ones. Keep them around long enough to impart their wisdom, but then make sure they die off one way or the other. Basically a variant of kin selection theory.
With CRISPR you could also imagine having a complete DNA sequence taken of your genome when you're a toddler, before the first full somatic replication, and then using CRISPR targeted repair agents to go in and restore your somatic DNA back to its original sequence on a regular basis. Kind of like running DISKCHK or restoring from a backup on a PC, or re-recording from the original master disc.
This potential fountain of youth is not at all beyond the imagination....I'm guessing maybe another 10 to 100 years of progress in biotechnology will get us there, for better or worse. Probably too late to affect my longevity, but perhaps not too late for my kids or grandkids....
science.howstuffworks.com
So we're all only 7 to 10 years old. My cells have been replaced somewhere around 6 to 8 times already.
You may ask then why do we age if our old cells are constantly being replaced by young cells? Well, the prevailing theory is the somatic theory of aging-- that our DNA directs making a copy. But like copying a cassette rather than the original recording, seven years later we are making a copy of a copy, and so there are slight errors in DNA replication that accumulate up over time. Some of us age faster than others if we are unlucky enough to have more random mutations, or because we inherited replication error correction systems that are less effective than those of other people. Another factor is programmed senescence. We might have built in clocks in our systems that basically cause us to age. Lots of biotech firms out there chasing the fountain of youth are trying to figure out where those doomsday clocks are and how to shut them off, as well as how to bolster our DNA error-checking-and-repair systems. The latter would also help reduce the development of cancers. Because of the cumulative DNA mutation problem, which not only creates cancer cells but also degrades the systems that detect and destroy cancers, right now anyone who doesn't die first of something else is eventually going to get some kind of cancer, no matter how healthy their lifestyle.
What would be the adaptive value of programmed senescence? How about this-- we have lived as hominids in small, genetically closely related bands for millions of years. If the older ones are sure to die off then maybe that leaves more resources for the younger ones. Keep them around long enough to impart their wisdom, but then make sure they die off one way or the other. Basically a variant of kin selection theory.
With CRISPR you could also imagine having a complete DNA sequence taken of your genome when you're a toddler, before the first full somatic replication, and then using CRISPR targeted repair agents to go in and restore your somatic DNA back to its original sequence on a regular basis. Kind of like running DISKCHK or restoring from a backup on a PC, or re-recording from the original master disc.
This potential fountain of youth is not at all beyond the imagination....I'm guessing maybe another 10 to 100 years of progress in biotechnology will get us there, for better or worse. Probably too late to affect my longevity, but perhaps not too late for my kids or grandkids....
Does your body really replace itself every seven years?
That bully who tormented you in school might not seem to have changed much when he put you down at the 10-year reunion. But he's practically a whole new person.
loopfinding
Poster Extraordinaire
It’s hard enough to find a guitar to bond with picking from all the years, so buying one from your birth year is a really silly and counterproductive limitation, unless you know one from your birth year is around some spec transition you do or don’t want.
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chris m.
Doctor of Teleocity
A way of putting this more succinctly is that we are all reissue models of ourselves, but not as faithful to the originals as the Fender reissues are.I say yes, being born in the early 60s. Think about this-- you aren't even made in your birth year, not anymore. Except for some cortex cells your entire body's cells are replaced every 7 to 10 years. Your red blood cells are replaced about every 4 months.
So we're all only 7 to 10 years old. My cells have been replaced somewhere around 6 to 8 times already.
You may ask then why do we age if our old cells are constantly being replaced by young cells? Well, the prevailing theory is the somatic theory of aging-- that our DNA directs making a copy. But like copying a cassette rather than the original recording, seven years later we are making a copy of a copy, and so there are slight errors in DNA replication that accumulate up over time. Some of us age faster than others if we are unlucky enough to have more random mutations, or because we inherited replication error correction systems that are less effective than those of other people. Another factor is programmed senescence. We might have built in clocks in our systems that basically cause us to age. Lots of biotech firms out there chasing the fountain of youth are trying to figure out where those doomsday clocks are and how to shut them off, as well as how to bolster our DNA error-checking-and-repair systems. The latter would also help reduce the development of cancers. Because of the cumulative DNA mutation problem, which not only creates cancer cells but also degrades the systems that detect and destroy cancers, right now anyone who doesn't die first of something else is eventually going to get some kind of cancer, no matter how healthy their lifestyle.
What would be the adaptive value of programmed senescence? How about this-- we have lived as hominids in small, genetically closely related bands for millions of years. If the older ones are sure to die off then maybe that leaves more resources for the younger ones. Keep them around long enough to impart their wisdom, but then make sure they die off one way or the other. Basically a variant of kin selection theory.
With CRISPR you could also imagine having a complete DNA sequence taken of your genome when you're a toddler, before the first full somatic replication, and then using CRISPR targeted repair agents to go in and restore your somatic DNA back to its original sequence on a regular basis. Kind of like running DISKCHK or restoring from a backup on a PC, or re-recording from the original master disc.
This potential fountain of youth is not at all beyond the imagination....I'm guessing maybe another 10 to 100 years of progress in biotechnology will get us there, for better or worse. Probably too late to affect my longevity, but perhaps not too late for my kids or grandkids....
Does your body really replace itself every seven years?
That bully who tormented you in school might not seem to have changed much when he put you down at the 10-year reunion. But he's practically a whole new person.
If you want to sit down and be a proud Papa you get the real one. I don't know how old you are but I do know that hard work and some savings can get you many important things and a guitar.
