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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Audiotrove, Sep 26, 2020.
Fundamentally simple question, right?
If "Whatever floats your boat" was an option, I'd choose that.
as the actress asked of the bishop
Depends on the fuzz, it may sound better one way. You have to try it both ways. Depends on the wah as well maybe.
The question is what you do though.
That Pedal Show did an episode on this topic in 2018:
For me, Wah is first
Muff before wah
Wah before karma suture
I got a lend of a boss pw10 v-wah. It has a number drive circuits built in to it which eliminates the conundrum of which comes first. Its a fantastic sounding pedal.
I don't have a fuzz… in general I put my way before the dirt pedals (i.e. on top of the chain), so was about to vote "Wah my Fuzz", but I see that fuzzes raise some very particular issues so I abstain. But: interesting thread ;D
I like the more pronounced sound of a wah after any dirt pedals. The other way around and the wah is more subtle and sounds like it has less sweep.
There's no right way. It's just another subjective judgement, based on what sounds better to you.
Do you Wah the Fuzz or Fuzz the Wah?
In my personal setup : Wah is in front, then followed by Fuzz.
On my DIY "SMOBY" Wah-Fuzz, I first installed a switch offering the W->F / F->W options, but I removed it, leaving only the W->F possibility, that I found better sounding, never using the F->W option. That switch is now replaced by a Overdrive-Distortion SW :
That said, I know that most of the Wah-Fuzz pedals were most of the time Fuzz->Wah : Jen Double sound, EHX Muff Crying tone Pedal, FoXX FuzzWa, Ibanez Wau-Wau-Fuzz... The two later being Octave-Fuzz->Wah, and they work very well !
At the moment mine goes: Wah (true bypass) -> germanium compressor (adjustable grit) -> Fuzz/OD (silicon) -> other stuff..
I'm still very much trying to learn things though. Playing and stuff and everything.
But of course I got an idea how I'd like to sound, when all is said and done
Tuner>wah>distortion/OD/fuzz pedals (in the order it sounds best to you)>amp>loop out to any time/modulation fx>loop in to power amp section
Modulation FX after filters/OD's/fuzz if no loop.
90% of what comes across my stage is configured in this manner, as well as my own rig. Ultimately, it comes down to what you, the player, likes best.
I ticked fuzz the wah as I put a pedal board together sans fuzz.
Then put a battery powered fuzz in front.
I've tried using a wah pedal a few times and don't really connect with it. I think I'd be tempted to wah first, but the other way would have its place as well. Maybe if I learned "White Room" it would make more sense.
On the electronics level I'm REALLY surprised that someone has not commercialized a patch cable with a built-in 10k series resistor that would (?) partially/mostly solve the problem of a buffered pedal driving a low input impedance fuzz face type circuit (input through cap to base of transistor whose emitter is grounded).
I voted Wah the Fuzz, but I think Fuzz the Wah makes a better stage name, like Chance the Rapper.
More precisely, I envelope-followed-phase-shift the tube-preamp-in-the-overdriven-region.
I fuzz not, and wah rarely.