Do you love the selector switch on a Tele? Didn't think so...

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  1. brogh

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    :cry: i don't want to ! :lol:
     
  2. luckett

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    I'm going to upgrade my Tele with a 6 way toggle for volume, four way blade switch for tone, and an 8 way rotary pot for pickup selection. I will also post 42 pictures of the guitar in various seductive poses on furniture around my house for everyone to enjoy (except all the losers who use a traditional control configuration).
     
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  3. Ess Eff

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    Yes, I had already checked them out, thx.
    €36 (AUD$55) inc postage to Australia! Postage more than doubles the price.

    I guess 'expensive' is relative, but I need 6 of them and can get std ones for $3.88.
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  4. Gary in Boston

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    I've often thought the space between the two knobs could be lessened and this would give you ma bit more room to grab the switch out of the bridge position

    Now I'm sure there will be folks on this site who'll say "who takes the switch out of the bridge position"?

    But you all know what I mean..................

    Gary

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    Then again I feel you can get use to many/anything and I hardly notice
    the issue.
     
  5. DHart

    DHart Friend of Leo's

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    Gary... indeed. That awkwardness of grabbing the switch out of bridge position when it is sitting so close to the knob is the biggest issue that personally had with the traditional switch. Going with an angled positioning of the switch goes a long way toward improving the ergonomics.
     
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    I like those Les Paul toggle switches personally, but I'm not really having a problem with my Teles. I thought about swapping the order around, so it was V/T/Switch, but haven't gotten around to it. I did put one of those Les Paul switches on an Ibanez once though, and I really liked that. Especially how it came out looking like it came from the factory that way LOL SpongeBob is the only one of these three I still have ;)
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  7. Tim S

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    There's one difference between the Fender/CRL switches and the Gibson toggle that no one is mentioning.

    make-before-break

    The Fender switches don't drop signal as you switch from one position to another (that's how the 2 & 4 positions were "discovered" using a 3 position CRL switch on the Strat).

    I believe the Gibson toggle breaks-before-makes, so you drop signal as switch between pickups.
     
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  8. Tim S

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    Don't you know that ending sentences with prepositions is something you should stay away from? :lol:

    (that's a quote from an english teacher I had many years ago)
     
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    Eight pages, in six days, spent discussing a switch......:confused: Time better spent in practice, with me included.

    I will agree that the blade switch has several disadvantages, and one being more likely to be swatted out of position by exuberant/forceful strumming, of which I have often done this. Of course, I also have knocked Les Paul's out of position. Not as easily, though.

    The second biggest fault of the blade style is the large, wide opening necessary to facilitate it's functioning. (Wow, look at all the "college" words!:)). This characteristic allows "gunk" to enter the switch and render it inoperative. Keeping a can of electrical contact cleaner handy is a good idea. I can only think of one occasion where a LP style guitar I owned required cleaning, and it was a used Epiphone Special that was very dirty overall. The previous owner had traded it non-functioning, due to the neck pick-up not coming on in position one. I noted however that it came on in position two, with the bridge pick-up so I paid diddly for it and took it home, where I cleaned the switch and viola!

    Now, go practice!:mad::rolleyes::):lol:
     
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  10. RoscoeElegante

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    I'm such a tradition-(near)worshipper that it's hard to admit fault with so classic and fun a design.

    But...yeah, somewhat. The selector being on the upper bout, ala a '72 Custom or (gasp!) a Les Paul, is more accessible. Most of all, it's out of the way of the vol. and tone knobs. But with practice, this all disappears.

    While we're at it, if the Strat pickup selector were a bit farther away from the strings/pickups, and a bit bigger, it would be more useful. Less prone to being accidentally hit, and still quick for flipping between pickup options. And certainly the Strat volume knob should be another inch away from the strings/bridge pickup. You could still do swells, and it would be more accessible while also being less likely to be accidentally rolled.

    And the Jazzmaster's goofy rhythm circuit switch and two little, low-set, horizontal wheels? C'mon! Such a great-sounding guitar--including that rhythm circuit, which can really sing the growls--but such dumb (sorry, Leo!) controls.
     
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    Can't trust a Tele player that doesn't use a blade switch.
     
  12. King Creole

    King Creole Friend of Leo's

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    I have a blade and a toggle on my main Tele. The blade is the traditional, 3-way pickup selector, and the toggle is a two-way blower switch between the volume and tone knobs. It bypasses the tone and volume controls. Set a nice rhythm tone with volume and tone rolled back a bit, then hit the blower switch to blow minds and melt faces.

    I have the three-way toggle on my Cabronita, and it's fine too. I never really developed a preference between toggle and blade, but I can go for months without moving from the bridge pickup.
     
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    No, I don’t believe it does - in the middle position you have both pickups active, ie both contacts are closed, while in either ‘side’ position the contacts for one pickup are opened while the other one remains closed. There is always at least one pickup connected to the output.
     
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  14. DHart

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    AAT65 is correct. The Gibson-style toggle switch does not break-before-makes. When switching from neck to neck & bridge, or from bridge to bridge & neck, there is continuous contact with one or both pickups.
     
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    I actually like the Les Paul Switch, but off and away from the control plate.
     
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    "Ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put."

    Winston Churchill
     
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    Strat saddles on a Tele ?

    I bailed after seeing that.

    We all have “our things”...
     
  18. DHart

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    We do, don't we!

    But no need to be rigidly ruled by them. Modern bridge with Strat saddles are among the first things I do on a Tele, if it had the old bridge originally! :D I find the modern bridge much better for palm muting, looks better to me, too. And they are more precisely “tuned”. That said... one of my Teles does have a vintage bridge on it! And that's ok! It’s not my favorite, but it gets the job done and I don’t turn my nose up at it. ;)

    I do find it quite interesting that some people can seem nearly offended by any variation to the vintage Tele. Such rigid attachment seems like overly tight bindings. Certainly, though, each should have his own instruments as he or she likes them to be!

    I easily understand how people like to have their guitars a certain way, but taking near offense to another player’s employment of modern variations and improvements on their guitars does seem a bit “out there” to me. o_O
     
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    Funny because I always think the Les Paul switch is awkward - can be knocked up or down easily while strumming if ya' get too far away from the bridge. But if it's working out for you...perfect!
     
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    What Churchill said, when criticized for ending a sentence with a preposition, was “That is the sort of pedantry up with which I will not put.”
     
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