Do you get Frank Zappa ?

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  1. LKB3rd

    LKB3rd Friend of Leo's

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    I had a roommate years ago who would play "Apostrophe " over and over he was obsessed with it. I found it to be clever and amusing, but it never really got me excited.
    I feel the same about most of the stuff from him I've heard.
     
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    One of my friends and I worked up a number of FZ tunes to play. There are a ton of bands that do Zappa covers in a variety of styles. Most of these cover versions are absent the singing and overt comedy and let the music do the talking.

    Tunes I sort of knew how to play at one time or another included:
    - Take Your Clothes Off When You Dance
    - Hungry Freaks, Daddy
    - Theme from Lumpy Gravy
    - We Are Not Alone
    - You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here
    - Oh No
    - Uncle Remus
    - Pojama People
    - Sofa #1/#2
    - Uncle Meat
    - Elvis Has Just Left the Building
    - Peaches en Regalia
    - Dumb All Over
    - Black Napkins
    - Magic Fingers
    - Blessed Relief
    - The Black Page

    etc...
     
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    I have never loved anything he has created, but I will say that I liked his thought process towards composition and love reading interviews with both him and Vai.

    They both frequently talk about the importance of phrasing in a human manner, using speech patterns as a model.


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    We cover this tune. As close to blues as Frank ever got. Love playing music with a sense of humour.
     
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    I read an interview with Zappa, where he says something to the effect of "everything I do is designed to annoy you to the point, that you decide to do something about the world around you."

    If you listen to his stuff with that in mind, you may "get" it more than you think that you will.
     
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    Exactly. He fired his fair share of musicians for drug use, and he was certainly not a cult leader. I'm friends with quite a few of Zappa's former musicians and staff, and literally no part of what RatBug said is true. He ran his band like a serious orchestra, quite similar to fripp in that regard. A strict leader, but certainly not one to impede the minds of his musicians.
     
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  7. Endless Mike

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    Yeah, 69. Which was surprising to find out as I thought that album was from circa 1972. Shows how ahead of his time he sounded.

    That's a really nice version of that tune. A little stiff at times (good for ripping through socks) but still very good. Having heard a few other versions, that one would be the best one so far.
     
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  8. Endless Mike

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    Which brings us by a commodius vicus of recirculation back to "The Dangerous Kitchen"

    How a guy naked on a toilet with a guitar can't appreciate that one, would be beyond me.
     
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    I get Captain Beefheart, but I don't get most of Frank Zappa's music.

    I like the intsrumental/free jazz stuff, but I don't get the music with lyrics. I get what he's trying to say in most of the lyrics, but I don't find it weird at all.

    I also don't understand why Adrian Belew is supposedly weird, although I'm not really familiar with his music. I also have no idea why the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds is supposed to be psychedelic.
     
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  10. johnny k

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    Same here really.
     
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    That's it, in a nutshell. Thanks, Jake.
     
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    ”Do you get Frank Zappa ?”

    Seems straight forward to myself; an eclectic, musical platoon meets a lyrical lampoon...comical, entertaining toons
     
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    I heard Freak Out when it came out. I was 15. Made us laugh. Quoting it made us feel hip and cool.
    Somehow I still have Trouble Coming Every Day memorized. 54 years.
    Some good lots of not so good. Clever shredder.
    Overnight Sensation was his best work.
    Get? I don’t know. Not any more or less than Captain Beefheart, BNL or Dawes.
     
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    I’m with you on Pet Sounds. Well produced Pop.
     
  15. Shango66

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    When FZ comes thru on my random playlist I always enjoy it, in small doses.
    Sometimes it rubs me up like ...Frank is clever and shows off his high IQ and I just don’t get it, cos I’m dumb.
     
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    I went through a Zappa-heavy phase, Apostrophe, Bongo Fury, Zoot Allures, Joe's Garage and You Are What You Is. After that I stopped listening but just reading the song titles even now still gives me a chuckle.

    Humoruos, irreverent and intelligent, as well as musically sophisticated.
     
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    I especially don't get the song "Titties and Beer". At first it seems sarcastic, but then why would someone with a seemingly different personality than Frank outsmart the devil?
     
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    YES!!
     
  19. Digital Larry

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    I think this is just Frank being practical. T&B probably didn't take too much time to write and provided enough income so he could write more elaborate stuff that everyone hates.
     
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    It's a pastiche of the second act of Stravinsky's L'Histoire du Soldat. Read the synopsis of that, and it should make more sense as to what he's getting at.
     
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