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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by ping-ping-clicka, Oct 30, 2020.
Amen! Pass the ammunition.
SNL can't improve on reality.
greetings from Babylon It's so true.
Oh yeah, like you've "mastered' sarcasm...
Satire or irony as a form of wit is a lot of fun and can be a verbal art form.
As a tool to show folk up or demonstrate some imagined superiority it often borders on rudeness.
We've mastered spelling too.
I always loved satire as a child growing up the 1960s. (Beyond The Fringe, Frost Report, At Last The 1948 Show... and the one those of you in the US will remember, Monty Python's Flying Circus.)
Sarcasm is a close bed-fellow. My mother was a lovely woman, but also sarcastic. It was just her way of conveying a reality with humour. Same with my boss when I trained as a musical instrument maker. Bob Paxman used to say things like "There must be a less efficient way of doing that, but I can't think what it is..." It made you laugh at yourself, and remember the lesson.
As in: "How nice of you to join us" when you're late for work?
I think mixing satire/politics with music is a difficult art. It can be done very well, but if you don’t properly know what you’re doing it can be really cringe-y.
I don't know WHAT you've talking about...
Satire is imitation truth about a controversial or contentious subject.
Seldom is satire delivered with the right touch, it seems, when so many people "have been fooled" as Mr. Twain has put it.
You need a level of actual communication going on, and with so many people talking right past one another, I think it is better right now to be as direct as possible.
We've got a lot of people who assume they're going to be forgiven for their transgressions as of late. Society may aspire to that, but I'd like to suggest that calculating that you will be given a pass, when you know better, could be a mistake in this instance.
"If you didn't laugh, you would have cried", as granny used to say, as she caught me "borrowing" a bottle of Mackeson and began to beat me with the aspidistra... .
Years ago, I remember hearing a guy who played a ton of Tom Lehrer material. I had heard of but never really listened to Lehrer before and I could not stop laughing. It's hard to do and in the right hands it can funny stuff.
Gets me in a lot of trouble with my wife. I'm predisposed to comment in grocery store lines, especially at checkout. I'll point to a copy of National Enquirer and say something like "You know 4 hours steady working next to this magazine will cause brain damage". Usually makes their eyes glaze over or just shake their heads at the old boomer. Many of my comments on TDPRI have a bit of satirical edge to them.
Satire is irony for control freaks. I prefer to be patient and let the universe spell it out for me.
I believe the whole Rocky and Bullwinkle show was parody. As a youthful viewer I always saw how they were making fun of adults. Boris and Natasha , Mr Big was mocking american propaganda of "them evil russians", Mr. Peabody, Fractured Fairy tales Satire deluxe.
I was blown away by Catch 22.
You're right, straight forward right down the line, is the only way to go. I couldn't agree with you more.