Do other “artist’s”/creators of “art” fixate on the tools with which they create, as much as musicians (especially guitarists) do ?
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Short on cash
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What did the greats do in the past ?
You can only play one guitar at a time.
Does a famous carver have a favorite hamer ?
Did Hemingway have favorite pencil ?
Do movie producers have a favorite camera ?
I think people work with what they have.
This thing about this or that is a sign of the times.
Your grandfather didn't have 25 hamers to choose from. He had one.
You can only play one guitar at a time.
Does a famous carver have a favorite hamer ?
Did Hemingway have favorite pencil ?
Do movie producers have a favorite camera ?
I think people work with what they have.
This thing about this or that is a sign of the times.
Your grandfather didn't have 25 hamers to choose from. He had one.
I worked with a company that employed "artisians" and I can say they are pretty picky about their tools.
Glass blowers, coppersmiths, blacksmiths, stained window artist, they all had their special tools and you did not borrow or mess with them.
Glass blowers, coppersmiths, blacksmiths, stained window artist, they all had their special tools and you did not borrow or mess with them.
KC
Poster Extraordinaire
In real life I'm a writer, and I'm here to say it's disappointing how little crap there is associated with writing. I get to buy a new computer every 5 years or so, a new printer every decade at best. A ream of copy paper ever once in a while, now that I'm retired from the University and can't filch it anymore. There is no fun in any of this, unless you count books, which I seem to have a few thousand of.
The thing is, a new pedal or a fun guitar will open doors in music world but a new computer is just a faster more-of-the-same for writing. So I take the money from writing, where I make money, and invest it in music, where I generally don't. I'm aware that this doesn't make a lot of sense.
The thing is, a new pedal or a fun guitar will open doors in music world but a new computer is just a faster more-of-the-same for writing. So I take the money from writing, where I make money, and invest it in music, where I generally don't. I'm aware that this doesn't make a lot of sense.
Flat6Driver
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Music is an art but also a product. Is there any *producer* out there these days splitting tape with a razor blade or poking holes in a speaker cone for distortion. Likely not. I would guess that if you have the music in you and it needs to come out, you need to get it out and waiting for that exact thing is holding that up.
Think about 80s albums with all the gated sounds and awfulness that sometimes artists have remixed.
There's a cost benefit on everything. Sometimes if you're too particular you'll never get the idea down.
Then again, you can get to be "particular" the more famous or money your bringing in.
Go to a job site and ask a guy working if the "old tools" are better than the new tools.
Think about 80s albums with all the gated sounds and awfulness that sometimes artists have remixed.
There's a cost benefit on everything. Sometimes if you're too particular you'll never get the idea down.
Then again, you can get to be "particular" the more famous or money your bringing in.
Go to a job site and ask a guy working if the "old tools" are better than the new tools.
boop
Tele-Holic
People love music, many people fixated on and mythologize the instruments of the artists they admire. People who work at music, or anything else for that matter, can be particular about the tools. That seems reasonable. Where it seems to go sideways is that the guitars become a collectible fetish way above making music for many. Maybe people project the amazing emotions they have experienced through music into an object. The internet and consumer culture seem to exacerbate this.
THX1123
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regularslinky
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Interesting topic. I think that rock/blues guitarists are much more fixated on their tools than other artists, including other musicians. There are exceptions, but most bassists, drummers, and keyboard players seem to be happy with equipment that functions, without endlessly search for something new and different. I've been trying to develop some jazz chops lately and I've noticed that even guitar players in jazz and other genres seem much less gear obsessed. They play pro gear, but it's simple and streamlined.
Also, it occurs to me that the best musicians I've ever played with have had simple rigs. One instrument, one amp, few if any pedals. I, on the other hand, own about a dozen guitars, a half dozen amps, and way too many pedals. I probably should have done more practicing and less shopping.
Also, it occurs to me that the best musicians I've ever played with have had simple rigs. One instrument, one amp, few if any pedals. I, on the other hand, own about a dozen guitars, a half dozen amps, and way too many pedals. I probably should have done more practicing and less shopping.
gitold
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One thing that shocked me was I had a married couple living next door who were both professional violinist’s.They did Suziki method lessons out of theirs house all day long. She played with the Denver Symphony Orchestra. They played with famous artists who came to town and needed a string section. Real Pro’s. We were hanging out one night and were all “in our cups” and they askEd how many guitars I had. I told her and she laughed and said she only had a couple violins and she was a pro. I asked her what she paid for her main violin and she said that she got a great deal on her’s, she only paid $30,000 for it. She then told me she paid $20,000 for her bow. That’s a whole lot of nice guitars!
Timbresmith1
Friend of Leo's
Some of it is about what inspires you.
I have friends that just LOVE their cheap guitars…They hand them yo me and say try this. I try it. It’s a pos. Maybe there IS a song in there, but I don’t feel like wrangling it out of that s-box.
Cheap Trills
Tele-Afflicted
Here's a weekly podcast/video about fountain pens where if you replaced the pen brands with guitar brands and change the words "ink" with "tone" and "paper" with "amp", it would be a guitar podcast. It has similar viewership to guitar podcasts. What nerds.
I can’t see Banksy using Krylon.
Timbresmith1
Friend of Leo's
Talked to a woodcarver about another woodcarvers work. Apparently his carving had gone to s when he changed over to machine buffing his chisels as a final step in the sharpening process. So yeah. They obsess about tools of the trade and technique.
Music and musical instruments is more like racing and race cars.
Seetoanz!
TheCheapGuitarist
Tele-Afflicted
Forum guitarists obsess over gear. Musicians obsess over making music.
