Do i wire toaster pickups like a humbucker or single coil?

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  1. markfresh

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    HI,
    I bought some cheap toasters for a cheap guitar.
    Do i wire them like single coil or humbucker?
    They have 2 wires which i imagine the shrouded one is hot and the un-shrouded the ground.
    I have read mixed ideas of if they are HB or SC.
    I have wired them as humbuckers and only the bridge seems to work.
    Please see linked diagram,
    Also can i check that on the tone pots that the far right tabs are left unsoldered and the capacitor connects only to the middle.
     

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    You have some imagination.

    There is no such thing as humbucker wiring, you can just as well wire single coils with the pdf you enclosed. Some people wire a different value of pots for tonal reasons, but it would work like that as well.

    Also, the shrouded part is the ground/earth, the unshielded part is the hot. I assume by shroud you mean the braided metal wrap.
     
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  4. rigatele

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    Are they from a "discount" mail order vendor from China for example? The ones I tore apart were HB with dual mini HB bobbins with ceramic magnets inside, instead of steel blades and a single magnet.
     
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    They are from ebay in australia, no name brand.
     
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    If they're anything like the cheap toasters I bought, they're just cheap, overwound ceramic minihumbuckers under the covers. I might use them someday, but not in any guitar I really care about.

    They look nice.

    EDIT: Curtis Novak used to offer to drop a 'real' toaster under these covers for something like $60. I really should've done that.
     
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    Yes they do look nice and also different, i might take them apart and have a look, maybe one is just faulty and will become a paperweight, and yeh they sre just going in a cheap diy guitar.
     
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    Strange. The ones I got were the most underwound I've literally ever seen.
     
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    So after all that its a faulty switch, wish i checked that earlier .
     
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    The hot will be the insulated inner wire. The surrounding braid is the ground.
     
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    to answer your question. Yes, wire them just like any other two lead pickup...

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    The MIC & at least some of the MIK toaster lookalikes are actually Firebird type mini humbuckers with rail magnets inside each bobbin. I'm not sure about the Kent Armstrong toaster lookalikes.

    They sound OK but nothing like a toaster type.

    If you want a toaster type pup, you can use a plastic P90 bobbin, first cut / sand down the edges to fit inside the cover, then drill out the Pole Bolt holes to fit 6mm or 1/4" (6.35mm) Alnico 5 rod magnets. Don't drill all the way though the other side of the bobbin. Glue in the A5 rods.

    Wind the bobbin with 44AWG pup wire from 6.5 to 8-5K Resistance, to get the 50-60's vintage sound, up to 12K for more modern tones.
     
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